F*ck the Tories: a Thread Dedicated to Suella Braverman

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Mugshot

Über Member
A God who was never angry at the evil men do to each other, and who would never enter into judgement with them and put such injustice right one day would not be loving.
If only an omnipotent being could do something to stop it 😔
 

matticus

Guru
There should be freedom to discuss any subject. It may not be 'snot 'snot right or fair that they should be criticised for honestly held views but and it's shoot that the world is becoming increasingly less tolerant of opposing views, fuelled by social media pile-ons.

It is what it is and discussing contentious subjects online is fraught with danger, and should come with a health warning.
Excellent. Agree with that! 👍
 
Stonewall were definitely trying to silence her by contacting her bosses but it's an employment tribunal, not a moral court. Judgement could go either way.

How would you guys feel if someone contacted your employers over an opinion you expressed on Cyclechat?
I have experienced that before, back in the nineties when internet was just a new thing they called my grandma at thinking it was my employer, being an wo2 survivor and having taking part in the resitantce/sheltering jews it goes without saying that person got a ''warm'' reception. But ever since i realized the importance off usernames and making sure you're not to easily traceable online.
 

theclaud

Reading around the chip
Ohio republicans are pushing a bill that will require genital inspection of children in the event that a school athlete is suspected of being trans. Under the guise of 'protecting' girls' sports. Just in case anyone can't get their head around why I'm giving Aurora a hard time about fuelling the trans panic culture wars.

https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/en...ool-college-sports_n_629982d3e4b016c4eef7afb4

More news from Dystopia...


View: https://twitter.com/byKateSmith/status/1577364402244055041?t=iP5n6Ij2Uy5_ZKG8koOLLg&s=19
 

winjim

Welcome yourself into the new modern crisis


Abortion ban considerations and compulsion aside, period tracking for athletes does seem to be a surprisingly recent development. I had assumed that it would be taken into consideration as part of the training regime. Jessica Ennis-Hill has said that she felt uncomfortable discussing her menstrual cycle with her trainer but now she trains around her period and has launched an app which enables women to exercise in different ways depending on which phase they're currently in. It seems odd to me that it wasn't that way when she was competing, I mean it's got to affect your performance, right?
 



Unacceptable obviously but not really relevant to the discussion on admitting males into the female sports category. I presume you think it's relevant or you wouldn't have quoted your previous post.

According to a news link in that Twitter feed, Florida has asked the questions about periods for 20 years. It's an optional question, but the difference now being you fill the form in online and the data is held by a third party, which would perhaps make it accessible to the authorities re pregnancy/abortion if they wanted.

https://fortune.com/2022/10/04/florida-female-student-athletes-menstrual-history-concerns-abortion/

I think there was an interview with Paula Radcliffe's coach where he said 'She did really well ... especially considering she was on her period'. I'm in awe of women and girls who can perform at a high level in sports whilst on their period. The fact that Wimbledon still insists on women wearing white shows how little consideration they give women on this issue.
 
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It seems odd to me that it wasn't that way when she was competing, I mean it's got to affect your performance, right?

It will massively affect your performance. Incredible really that sports will pump millions into making a bike that weighs a few grams less or into devising a diet for optimum performance but don't put the same effort into devising ways to mitigate the negative effects of the menstrual cycle. Perhaps they do but we don't hear about it because periods are still a bit taboo.

I know lots of elite athletes with low body fat don't have periods, and you can take meds that postpone your period, but I'd be interested to know if it's just something women athletes develop their own way of dealing with or if it's a specialist field of study now.
 

winjim

Welcome yourself into the new modern crisis
It will massively affect your performance. Incredible really that sports will pump millions into making a bike that weighs a few grams less or into devising a diet for optimum performance but don't put the same effort into devising ways to mitigate the negative effects of the menstrual cycle. Perhaps they do but we don't hear about it because periods are still a bit taboo.

I know lots of elite athletes with low body fat don't have periods, and you can take meds that postpone your period, but I'd be interested to know if it's just something women athletes develop their own way of dealing with or if it's a specialist field of study now.

Here's Ennis-Hill talking about it, and also contributions from some sports scientists who seem to suggest that there's been very little research done on the subject which again, I find quite surprising. In a competitive world of marginal gains I would have thought that the natural cycle which an athlete's body goes through was a very obvious thing to try to optimise. It also seems a bit unfair to me if you're in a competition and for reasons of biology find yourself at a disadvantage on that particular day, but I guess to sort that out would require a huge change to the way that competitive sport is organised and presented.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-61591417.amp
 

theclaud

Reading around the chip
Abortion ban considerations and compulsion aside
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winjim

Welcome yourself into the new modern crisis

It's not as if I haven't made my views on abortion perfectly clear in the past. But the effect of the menstrual cycle in sport, and the resources put into training, is an interesting subject in and of itself.
 

theclaud

Reading around the chip
It's not as if I haven't made my views on abortion perfectly clear in the past. But the effect of the menstrual cycle in sport, and the resources put into training, is an interesting subject in and of itself.

It is - I didn't mean to be dismissive. I have a friend who is a very good triathlete and coach, and she is all over this stuff. But women, athletes or not, have been ditching their period trackers en masse. You can't have a serious conversation about the benefits of training to a cycle when you've no bodily autonomy.
 
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