Gender again. Sorry!

[monkers]

But what is a homological man? As opposed to a man?

Men are homological with other men. Women are homological with other women. Trans women are as 'biological' as anybody else, their anatomy is not typical of a man after treatment, and not entirely typical of a woman. Transition is a process of making a homological person of one sex more like a homological person of the opposite sex. Of course there is no complete [physical] transition, but the process is necessary for the fulfillment of the person.

 

[Bromptonaut]

'Man in a dress' is pure bigotry.

He's just playing the goat. In this case the Troll is on the bridge....

 

[monkers]

It's just another word mumbo jumbo gymnastics, instead of calling a man a man and women, women.

Which came first, the word or the Gender Recognition Act 2003? The word comes from the scientific lexicon, not from 'trans activism'. I don't know that I've ever hear the trans movement even use the word.

But please don't think that your ignorance should stop your obvious bias, or the need to advertise your ignorance.

 

[Deleted member 159]

What came first woman or trans.

Women will always be first in my book

 

[monkers]

What came first woman or trans.

Women will always be first in my book

It's altogether likely they were contemporaneous.

 

[AuroraSaab]

Trans women are as 'biological' as anybody else, their anatomy is not typical of a man after treatment, and not entirely typical of a woman.

Their body is typical of a man who has taken certain drugs. That's all. It's entirely untypical of a woman because replicating secondary sexual features through drugs or surgery doesn't make the recipient of those changes a woman.

 

[monkers]

Their body is typical of a man who has taken certain drugs. That's all. It's entirely untypical of a woman because replicating secondary sexual features through drugs or surgery doesn't make the recipient of those changes a woman.

A compassionate person would not feel the need to draw distinction to any difference. That's what stands between us.

 

[Deleted member 159]

A compassionate person would not feel the need to draw distinction to any difference. That's what stands between us.

First it was aggressive language, then victim simping, now passive aggressive compassion blaming.

This is a western leftist social contagion. It doesn't appear in Africa or other parts of the world.

 

[monkers]

First it was aggressive language, then victim simping, now passive aggressive compassion blaming.

This is a western leftist social contagion. It doesn't appear in Africa or other parts of the world.

It's further right fascist bleating is what it is. Fascism is the intolerance of the other. It's what we spent world wars fighting.

The United Nations was a Churchillian ambition. The convention rights were the success of the WW2. Never again should we allow intolerance of difference to bring about such terrible loss of life, but we are heading back there.

 

[fozy tornip]

First it was aggressive language, then victim simping, now passive aggressive compassion blaming.

Could "passive aggression compassion blaming" fatigue become a thing?

Asking for bored friend.

 

[AuroraSaab]

A compassionate person would not feel the need to draw distinction to any difference. That's what stands between us.

Women's oppression is sex based so it's both relevant and necessary to acknowledge the difference. It's not compassionate to pretend these differences don't exist when doing so is detrimental to women and girls. Nobody cares how you look other than it's being cited as evidence of being something you are not.

 

[bobzmyunkle]

Men are homological with other men. Women are homological with other women.

now passive aggressive compassion blaming.

Fascism

Thread back on track.

 

[monkers]

Women's oppression is sex based so it's both relevant and necessary to acknowledge the difference. It's not compassionate to pretend these differences don't exist when doing so is detrimental to women and girls. Nobody cares how you look other than it's being cited as evidence of being something you are not.

Women's oppression comes from those doing the oppressing, and not from those who don't. It isn't all men oppressing women, therefore the assumptions that trans women as a group must either be collectively oppressing women or otherwise they transition in order to do so are fallacious arguments, unless supported by sound evidence.

Posie Parker is a threat to women. Her stated intention within her campaign is to advocate for pro life and other threats to women's rights. She includes elements of racism and religious bigotry, both things that also affect women. PP is funded by ultra right wing evangelical christian republicans. Women's Place UK want nothing to do with her.

 

[Ian H]

...but I know women, surrounded by women in my family. I know what makes them feel insecure...

No-one would doubt that.

 

[monkers]

Thread back on track.

It's fine to call fascism by its name.