General Election 2024....

[BoldonLad]

But they also don't have proportional representation. France has a two round system which isn't really PR. Germany's is a complex form of PR. I was looking at direct PR where the elected number of parliamentarians represents the percentage of the vote that they won.

That SOUNDS fair, but, how do you "map" MPs to constituencies?, or, is the link between MP and Constituency severed in such a system?

 

[icowden]

That SOUNDS fair, but, how do you "map" MPs to constituencies?, or, is the link between MP and Constituency severed in such a system?

Not necessarily. Other countries that use PR have much bigger constituencies but are represented by more than one MP for example. That is te tricky bit however.

 

[Bromptonaut]

But they also don't have proportional representation. France has a two round system which isn't really PR. Germany's is a complex form of PR. I was looking at direct PR where the elected number of parliamentarians represents the percentage of the vote that they won.

As your post says Germany does have PR, I think a mix of constituency members and a list to even up the numbers.

The French system of two rounds is similar to the Alternative Vote proposed for the UK during the coalition but rejected at referendum. It ensures that whoever is elected has the support of 50%+1 vote of those participating. Not PR in the strict sense but not FPTP either.

 

[icowden]

As your post says Germany does have PR, I think a mix of constituency members and a list to even up the numbers.

The French system of two rounds is similar to the Alternative Vote proposed for the UK during the coalition but rejected at referendum. It ensures that whoever is elected has the support of 50%+1 vote of those participating. Not PR in the strict sense but not FPTP either.

And either would be better than FPTP

 

[ebikeerwidnes]

Things are getting desperate


People need to be listened to

The People are up in arms because all this election stuff has meant that Corrie and 'stenders have been cancelled on some nights

Something must be done!!!!

(for the Fact checkers - this mustbe true as it says so in some of the Red Tops!!!)

 

[BoldonLad]

Things are getting desperate


People need to be listened to

The People are up in arms because all this election stuff has meant that Corrie and 'stenders have been cancelled on some nights

Something must be done!!!!

(for the Fact checkers - this mustbe true as it says so in some of the Red Tops!!!)

It is the Euros Football causing Corrie and Emmerdale to to cancelled, according to Mrs Boldonlad, I am sick of hearing about it.

 

[Fab Foodie]

It is the Euros Football causing Corrie and Emmerdale to to cancelled, according to Mrs Boldonlad, I am sick of hearing about it.

Yeah, I'm sick of the Euros already too....

 

[icowden]

Yeah, I'm sick of the Euros already too....

I find one currency very much like another...

 

[Fab Foodie]

I find one currency very much like another...

I find the best ones are the ones you can use in many different countries....

 

[AndyRM]

Latest bit of election material through my door, although it may be a ransom note.

And I'm not sure why he's gone with that stupid URL when rahmanfortynemouth.com is available.

 

[albion]

'Because the country now hates Brexit. And the only thing vital for brand Farage is to appear to be on the side of the working people when they hate something. When people wanted Brexit, Farage was happy to take the thanks. Now people see how much it’s cost, he’s happy to join the blame game.'
https://inews.co.uk/opinion/britain-broken-nigel-farage-broke-it-3117132

Making hate plans for Nigel.
He has his future in a British steal.

 

[cookiemonster]

Decent and fair analysis of other parties manifestos.


View: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T28aFimDfBw

 

[icowden]

Couldn't decide whether this was election news or political humour...

Reform allegedly don't know their tech stuff...


View: https://x.com/miffythegamer/status/1803092721273623011?t=s55njVge0hi3czbCfnsaLw&s=19

 

[ebikeerwidnes]

Couldn't decide whether this was election news or political humour...

Reform allegedly don't know their tech stuff...


View: https://x.com/miffythegamer/status/1803092721273623011?t=s55njVge0hi3czbCfnsaLw&s=19

SO Reform were expected to actually do some work themselves

SO why didn;t Richard Tice do it then???

I mean - you can;t expect Farage to do stuff like this - he is there to do public appearance and speeches and take all the glory

not do actual work


saw this today as well

Fascism arrives as your friend,
It will restore your honour,
make you feel proud,
protect your house,
give you a job,
clean up the neighbourhood,
remind you of how great you once were,
clear out the venal and the corrupt,
remove anything you feel is unlike you…
Michael Rosen

dunno why I thought it was relevant but for some reason I thought I would put it here

 

[Fab Foodie]

saw this today as well

Fascism arrives as your friend,
It will restore your honour,
make you feel proud,
protect your house,
give you a job,
clean up the neighbourhood,
remind you of how great you once were,
clear out the venal and the corrupt,
remove anything you feel is unlike you…
Michael Rosen

dunno why I thought it was relevant but for some reason I thought I would put it here

I think that is apposite.

Supertanskii yesterday strongly made the point that Farage/Anderson imply through their rhetoric that the working class/average man in the street, sensible bloke down the pub is an ardent xenophobe and racist. Whilst such people do exist (where is the representative for Wolverhampton these days), tarring a whole swathe of the population with that brush is pretty insulting....