Bromptonaut
Rohan Man
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- Bugbrooke, Northants
But at the price of allowing large extreme parties to gain absolute power vis our elective dictatorship.
Scandi noir....
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But at the price of allowing large extreme parties to gain absolute power vis our elective dictatorship.
Craig the cyclist
Über Member
And still you are telling us the electorate are stupid!
I really can't understand how even after Brexit you think the way to win people over is to abuse the electorate. Remember what Gordon Brown did
Setting yourself up as superior to the thick electorate is just not going to work.
The large majority of Brexit voters were actually working class people who you think are thick and bigotted. My guess is they are exactly the same constituency of voters that you support so wholeheartedly when it comes to strikes. I assume they are thick and bigotted only when they behave in a way that you disagree with?
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Fab Foodie
Legendary Member
If it wasn't for UKIP, we'd still be in the EU - they were 100% successful in their goal and have no further reason to exist....
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Fab Foodie
Legendary Member
I would rather have a parliament that more accurately reflects the views of the population (however distasteful) and where people feel their vote is of value rather the the gross distortions that fptp delivers.
spen666
Well-Known Member
You can make the same argument about distortion with PR where a party with few votes is involved in a coalition and makes outrageous demands which other party has to accept to retain power.
Its an argument that can be made for any voting system, depending on the situation selected as an example
The only fair democratic system is one man one vote...as long as I am the one man
Hitchington
Wokey Dick
- Location
- New York-Paris-Pokemon
I'm beginning to think you're stupid, lazy or both.
I specifically said all people who vote for a neo Nazi party are either racist, gullible or stupid.
I have given my reasons clearly.
I didn't say "the electorate are stupid" just the ones who vote for neo Nazis.
I said some people who voted leave probably did it for stupid reasons, e.g racism or they believed the lies being told to them, i.e gullibility.
How you came to the conclusion that I somehow think that I am "superior" to the working class is quite remarkable.
QED, however, I'm definitely superior to you.
P.S when quote replying to a post, make sure you do it to the right one.
You quote replied to my list of countries with non authoritarian socialist governments, which makes your reply look totally out of context, and stupid.
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Rusty Nails
Country Member
The countries, particularly the Scandi ones, are based on a model of capitalism, some public ownership, free market economics and strong support for social welfare policies. They are run as I would hope a strong Labour Party would aim for.
They are as much, if not much more, capitalist as/than socialist, and much the better for it imo.
One could almost use the word centrist to describe them, but that is a dirty word to many.
Hitchington
Wokey Dick
- Location
- New York-Paris-Pokemon
Countries which have mixed economies with strong socialist foundations and principles. Something that Corbyn and McDonnall championed.
Rusty Nails
Country Member
Nothing wrong with that.
cookiemonster
Veteran
- Location
- Far away from the asylum
Jowwy? Is that you?
Salty seadog
Senior Member
Yes that is jobby, just don't feed it.
Breeze on past his hateful posts and carry on.
Can't hide the devil inside.
Salty seadog
Senior Member
Yes it is check the name, the phoenix rising from the ashes to burn again. He's such a clever fellow.
Or check the IP address if you know how. 👍
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Fab Foodie
Legendary Member
😆 bye....
Craig the cyclist
Über Member
But you ended it with Sweden, which is the country that is the whole purpose of this thread!