Starmer's vision quest

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multitool said:
They've never been away. Most of them give to the Tory party. This one giving to Labour is progressive given the Tory grip for what will be 15 years.

Your problem is that you've never heard of Otto Von Bismarck
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From £15 million in credit to 'debt free' in three years....top job Kier !
 
multitool

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All those legal cases fighting accusations of anti-Semitism didn't come cheap.

Well done,Jeremy. Really had a grip on the fruit loops didn't you.
 
theclaud

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Starmer has at least learnt one lesson from the Owen Smith debacle. Book small rooms.

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Ian H

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theclaud said:
Come for the solutions, stay for the ice-cream...


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My favourite slogan was from an ink manufacturer: "Not just ink, but solutions"
 
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multitool said:
No. No clue. That's why it looks like he'll get in on a landslide next election.

Yeah, no clue.
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Biggest financial crisis we've known,a decade of austerity,the pandemic,cost of living crisis that's getting worse....
What do we need ? Reheated Blairism...fecking useless.
 
Rusty Nails

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Adam4868 said:
Biggest financial crisis we've known,a decade of austerity,the pandemic,cost of living crisis that's getting worse....
What do we need ? Reheated Blairism...fecking useless.
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You continually attack Starmer as being bland, which he undoubtedly is, but that is missing the point completely. Blandness is his USP, chosen as a deliberate antithesis to Johnson and Corbyn, one of which he has replaced, and the other he wants to, and, like it or not, it seems to be doing him and the party no harm in the view of a large number of the electorate. You and I and many others may think that he should be a lot more daring in his policy statements, but he, and his advisers, disagree knowing he cannot satisfy everyone so will settle for the majority...both within the Party and the electorate, and will willingly soak up the insults of the dissatisfied minority if it helps him in his aim of getting Labour back into power.

Imo his biggest problem is not that he is like Blair, but that he is not like Blair with his early political nous and communication skills (obviously without the war he later lied us into).

You never know, but reheated Blairism might actually be attractive to a lot of people. That is one of the awkward things about democracy, the outcomes are not what everyone wants.
 
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Rusty Nails said:
You continually attack Starmer as being bland, which he undoubtedly is, but that is missing the point completely. Blandness is his USP, chosen as a deliberate antithesis to Johnson and Corbyn,
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Both these leaders have gone.Time to move on.Unless your as obsessed as the media ?
Rusty Nails said:
Imo his biggest problem is not that he is like Blair, but that he is not like Blair with his early political nous and communication skills (obviously without the war he later lied us into).

You never know, but reheated Blairism might actually be attractive to a lot of people. That is one of the awkward things about democracy, the outcomes are not what everyone wants.
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That's where we differ,I've no romantic idea of the Blair years.They did little to address the issues that led to inequality increasing and continued damage to society. All the good gets a back seat with PFI,more privatisation and obviously the fecking shitshow that was Iraq.
Anyway that was then, Starmer is now and to me Starmer makes Blair look left wing.
So I'll carry on continually attacking him as I please...he hasn't offered any policies for change.Id say the vast majority of his popularity is just the anti-Tory vote.Taking his "landslide" for granted is a dangerous strategy.
 
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