Starmer's vision quest

[multitool]

The Tit: 2400+ posts in 2023

Rusty Nails: 425 in the same period.

My trap is only just ajar.

And every one of those 425 posts just some tedious bloviated sniping pomposity without adding anything at all...exactly as now.

Now run along and go and find some people with deformed faces to laugh at.

Twat.

 

[Rusty Nails]

No, he and the utter freak that is Andy RM piled in accusing me of lying. Do you think I was lying, Adam? If you don't then it isn't me that was being mocked but the people I mentioned and their actual existence.

If you do think I made it all up then fine. You'd be wrong, but fine.

Show me the posts where I did this, I can't see any.

I was mocking your posts, as anybody with even a hint of humour or self-awareness of when they look like a pompous prat would know.

 

[multitool]

Show me the posts where I did this, I can't see any.

I was mocking your posts, as anybody with even a hint of humour or self-awareness of when they look like a pompous prat would know.

No. You mocked the existence of very vulnerable people I described by implying they didn't exist.

Now fùck off and find some puppies to kick, you sad sneering little fùck.

 

[Deleted member 49]

It's not a zero-sum game. That the notion of 'magic money tree' doesn't entirely describe reality does not mean that alternative descriptions are true. The argument seems to be this: " governments make choices about how borrowed money is spent" (true) "therefore money can be borrowed in greater quantities with no negative side-effects" (not true).

I would argue that tinkering around the edges of wealth distribution is possible, but this notion of radical action ignores the realities of what that might entail.

Asking the wealthy to pay a bit more tax so that kids don’t go to school hungry isn’t radical or even really socialist...it's the very least we should expect.
I'm sure you've read this today ? How can we not afford public ownership,because we certainly can't afford private.Its embarrassing how weak and the lack of vision that Labour have,I rarely see anything other than the least worst option.
https://www.standard.co.uk/business/severn-trent-thames-water-nationalisation-labour-b1091238.html

 

[multitool]

Asking the wealthy to pay a bit more tax so that kids don’t go to school hungry isn’t radical or even really socialist...it's the very least we should expect.
I'm sure you've read this today ? How can we not afford public ownership,because we certainly can't afford private.Its embarrassing how weak and the lack of vision that Labour have,I rarely see anything other than the least worst option.
https://www.standard.co.uk/business/severn-trent-thames-water-nationalisation-labour-b1091238.html

The truth is, Adam, we can't afford the wealthy.

How we deal with that situation without unintended consequences and ensuing chaos is the question. You think the govt can just blat out radical change with no downsides, I don't. We don't actually disagree on the social ills, so lets stop pretending we do.

 

[Rusty Nails]

No. You mocked the existence of very vulnerable people I described by implying they didn't exist.

Now fùck off and find some puppies to kick, you sad fùck.

So I didn't accuse you of lying. No need to apologise, Tit, I know your style of twisting what people say.

I didn't imply it. You inferred it from what I said, in your sense of shock that people would laugh at you, mocking your self-reverential posts. I am not convinced you understand the meaning of pomposity.

I would never kick a puppy, but would kick a kitten without a second thought.

Anyway, bored now so off for an early night. Sweet dreams.

 

[multitool]

So I didn't accuse you of ...bla bla bla

Nobody cares.

You just look more of a twat every time you post.

Bore off.

 

[theclaud]

It's not a zero-sum game. That the notion of 'magic money tree' doesn't entirely describe reality does not mean that alternative descriptions are true. The argument seems to be this: " governments make choices about how borrowed money is spent" (true) "therefore money can be borrowed in greater quantities with no negative side-effects" (not true).

I would argue that tinkering around the edges of wealth distribution is possible, but this notion of radical action ignores the realities of what that might entail.

I was hoping we were moving on from this difference of opinion about the ideology of austerity towards a new era of solidarity between those of us occupying various positions on the leopard menu.

 

[multitool]

I was hoping we were moving on from this difference of opinion about the ideology of austerity towards a new era of solidarity between those of us occupying various positions on the leopard menu.

Ideology of austerity was not actually part of the debate, at least with me, but having said that the circumstances of now are radically different to the circumstances of 2010, not only because of the amounts being borrowed but because of the cost of borrowing.

From what I can make out we are in a pile of trouble. It looks, from what I hear from friends in the building industry, that there might be a collapse in the house building market, because new houses are being sold at a loss.

You'll have to explain to me how we can spend our way out of this with borrowed money, without the usual consequences of higher inflation.

Wanging on about leopards, whilst funny, isn't really going to cut it

 

[Deleted member 49]

We're farked as a country and someone has to pay for it ? Is it going to be the same people who took the last two hits? Or do we share it about this time maybe.
We're a country mile on where the money should come from.Everyones wages have stood still and there trying to tell us that's what's causing inflation lol...like feck it is.I don't want my kids to have to pay for this,they've had a sh1t enough time of it as it is.We need to take some wealth from those that have it,let them cry about it for a while.

 

[Deleted member 28]

Far too much to wade through but the sad twat thought it normal that upon reaching her 17th birthday his daughter needed a £100 per month Fiat 500 lease car to get herself to school, FFS!

 

[cookiemonster]

https://www.theguardian.com/comment...ling-mp-activist-neal-lawson?CMP=share_btn_tw

Another decent Labour member bites the dust.

 

[multitool]

https://www.theguardian.com/comment...ling-mp-activist-neal-lawson?CMP=share_btn_tw

Another decent Labour member bites the dust.

That is a piece written by Lawson, about Lawson.

Here is an alternative view:

https://labourlist.org/2023/06/neal-lawson-compass-expulsion-labour-party/

 

[fozy tornip]

Those concerned, as I am, about tool's rolling meltdown (Mult's Melt? Will we get an album of jazz piano from it?) rest assured I've asked my rellie from the cu-de-sac behind to check in on him, make sure his fridge's stocked and bedding changed, signpost him to statutory and voluntary sector support, perhaps encourage him away from the computer and out for some forest bathing, maybe sit and read to him from Jordan Peterson's latest if his busy substance-abusing schedule will allow..
Whether it'll help or not..? I guess we'll find out.
You do what you can.

 

[multitool]

Those concerned, as I am, about tool's rolling meltdown

The only melt happening here is you and Rusty Fails.

Send me your address and I'll direct those poor drug-addled victims to your door, where you will be able to offer them the support which you feel others should supply. Got a spare room?