Starmer's vision quest

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C R

C R

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Ian H said:
To be fair, they may stand somewhere near to where the Conservatives used to be, but yer actual Tories are now somewhere over there ----------------------------->>>
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That may be true now, but it wouldn't have been when Blair or Starmer joined the Labour Party.
 
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C R said:
Why don't Blair, Starmer and Co just join the Conservative party?
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Yesterday we learned that Labour won't commit to spending more money per pupil than the Tories, and won't repeal the Tories 2 child benefit cap, despite calling it heinous....
Or you could look on the bright side and be thankful that everyone will be on the bones of their arses but at least they'll have a posh accent.
 
Mr Celine

Mr Celine

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Ian H said:
To be fair, they may stand somewhere near to where the Conservatives used to be, but yer actual Tories are now somewhere over there ----------------------------->>>
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I was at a very interesting talk by prof John Curtice at the Melrose Book Festival a few weeks ago. He pointed out that Blair succeeded in shifting the entire British electorate to the right, something that Thatcher attempted but failed to achieve.
 
newfhouse

newfhouse

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This is good. ChatGPT emulates Starmer. Twitter link for those that have an account, pics for those that don’t.

View: https://twitter.com/solhugheswriter/status/1676889788517941249?s=61&t=IaNHN0MzKohAo3Ktl0DsFQ


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the snail

the snail

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Mr Celine said:
I was at a very interesting talk by prof John Curtice at the Melrose Book Festival a few weeks ago. He pointed out that Blair succeeded in shifting the entire British electorate to the right, something that Thatcher attempted but failed to achieve.
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Starmer: "make brexit work"
Blair: "make thatcherism work"
 
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I hope they withdraw their funding.

View: https://twitter.com/UniteSharon/status/1678025878473670656?t=PTE5b4IJFu_rv15VrZRvyg&s=19
 
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theclaud

theclaud

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What a lot of Cobblers. I'm not sure if Hattenstone intends this profile of Reeves to be as subtly damning as it reads, or whether it's just impossible to make Reeves sound the slightest bit interesting, convincing or likeable, but it's sort of grimly entertaining. As Richard Seymour pointed out recently, the usefulness of this kind of messaging from Labour is that "it might persuade those who have been entertaining false hope that of a better politics from Labour to accept that this is who they are and they can’t do otherwise. So accept it, move on and do other things." Let down the tyres of some Wankpanzers, join JSO, elect an independent mayor, organise in your community... Anyway, it's very much to Hattenstone's credit that he pushes back at some length against the false antisemitism campaign and Reeves's smears against Loach.
 
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Xipe Totec

Xipe Totec

Something nasty in the woodshed
shep said:
Looks like a game changer, is he famous or particularly influential then?
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He's a symptom - Sir Starmer's 'Labour' is his new home-from-home. It's to encourage you to vote for them.

Which, I suppose, could provide a potentially interesting barometer - given that they are now pretty much as objectively foul exactly the same as any incarnation of the Tory Party, are there still any reasons why you wouldn't?
 
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shep said:
Looks like a game changer, is he famous or particularly influential then?
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Eight hugely influential years in the Tory party and you're asking who is he ?
Think Wolves academy on a free transfer.
 
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