Starmer's vision quest

[newfhouse]

https://www.theguardian.com/politic...s-ifs-paul-johnson?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Other

It's a bit shìt when Paul Johnson, director of the Institute for Fiscal Studies and Professor of Economics at UCL, knows less about economics than @Adam4868

Tax cuts would put ‘scary’ UK finances in greater danger, warns top economist​

Here’s an idea. How about tax rises for those that would be best able to carry the burden?

 

[multitool]

Here’s an idea. How about tax rises for those that would be best able to carry the burden?

"In a plea to both main parties, however, Johnson called for an honest acknowledgement that large swathes of the electorate would have to pay more tax if incoming ministers wanted to improve public services.

“I characterise it as quite scary, actually,” Johnson said. “If you look at the OBR at budget time, they were essentially saying that on the set of assumptions then, debt would be stable at the end of the five-year period. That is in a world in which we’ve had the biggest tax increases in living memory and completely implausibly tight spending plans, post-election. Things have got worse since then.

“My plea, in a sense, is that it would be really quite helpful if [both parties] could be open about the scale of the challenges … The part we’re not going to get any honesty on, I don’t think, is on tax and spending."



It isn't just tax cuts he's worried about. It's financing public spending.

 

[Deleted member 49]

https://www.theguardian.com/politic...s-ifs-paul-johnson?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Other

It's a bit shìt when Paul Johnson, director of the Institute for Fiscal Studies and Professor of Economics at UCL, knows less about economics than @Adam4868

Tool thinking he's found some sort of gotcha 🤣
Tax cuts for the rich and taxing the rich aren't really the same thing, are they? Anyway I'm more of a redistribution of wealth sort,you know one day were the 5/6 richest nation in the world and then whoops we can't even afford to fund public services,or pay people what they deserve.Its bollox wether the IFS want to say different or not.I wonder if Paul Johnson has had a pay cut 🙄

 

[Deleted member 49]

Remember when football smelt of sh1t and burgers ? ffs this really is pathetic.

View: https://twitter.com/Keir_Starmer/status/1690322292197179393?t=v16uUv26R8kdxFGaFs3m-A&s=19

 

[C R]

Remember when football smelt of sh1t and burgers ? ffs this really is pathetic.

View: https://twitter.com/Keir_Starmer/status/1690322292197179393?t=v16uUv26R8kdxFGaFs3m-A&s=19

What did it say? Seems to have been disappeared.

 

[BoldonLad]

"In a plea to both main parties, however, Johnson called for an honest acknowledgement that large swathes of the electorate would have to pay more tax if incoming ministers wanted to improve public services.

“I characterise it as quite scary, actually,” Johnson said. “If you look at the OBR at budget time, they were essentially saying that on the set of assumptions then, debt would be stable at the end of the five-year period. That is in a world in which we’ve had the biggest tax increases in living memory and completely implausibly tight spending plans, post-election. Things have got worse since then.

“My plea, in a sense, is that it would be really quite helpful if [both parties] could be open about the scale of the challenges … The part we’re not going to get any honesty on, I don’t think, is on tax and spending."



It isn't just tax cuts he's worried about. It's financing public spending.

https://www.theguardian.com/books/2...son-review-how-the-government-should-spend-it

Who are we to believe?

 

[AuroraSaab]

What did it say? Seems to have been disappeared.

Mr Starmer is reminiscing in a Four Yorkshiremen kind of a way about how he was too poor to watch Arsenal as a child but used to go when he was an adult and pay £4 to stand on the terraces. He fondly remembers the smell of burgers and horse sh*t (I'm paraphrasing...). That's the gist of it. You have to imagine it in a Ron Manager jumpers for goal posts voice for best effect.

 

[BoldonLad]

What did it say? Seems to have been disappeared.

It is just Starmer doing his "I am just an ordinary person, same as you" bit.

None of them are "ordinary", although, it is true, some are less "ordinary" than others.

But, if it wins a few votes, why not?

 

[AuroraSaab]

It's funny how sport is the classic go to to establish yourself as a 'man of the people' type. It's cheaper to go to the opera than see my local team.

 

[bobzmyunkle]

It's cheaper to go to the opera than see my local team

Was football that expensive when Starmer was kid? He says he couldn't afford to go. I call bullshit.

 

[BoldonLad]

Was football that expensive when Starmer was kid? He says he couldn't afford to go. I call bullshit.

We need a chart showing the price of entry to Arsenal Football Ground from (say) 1970 until now, and, knowledge of how much pocket money Sir Keith got as a child, to answer that one.

 

[bobzmyunkle]

We also need to know whether his mam would let him out and if he had any mates to go with.

 

[bobzmyunkle]

But a quick Google, suggests standing on the terraces would have been covered by his paper round.

 

[newfhouse]

Daddy was a toolmaker,
But he never hurt nobody...

 

[BoldonLad]

But a quick Google, suggests standing on the terraces would have been covered by his paper round.

He had a paper round?, better and better, I could identify with that, I wonder if he spent his tips on Woodbines? (we did, had to buy single tabs on a bad week).