Pale Rider
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Not all Labour punters are anti-semitic, but it seems a great deal are.
Starmer's vision quest
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Not all Labour punters are anti-semitic, but it seems a great deal are.
albion
Guru
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/10/13/opinion/israel-military-war.html
Yet no choice really, the only other option being prison.
winjim
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Suddenly realised that genocide isn't that much of a vote winner ?
View: https://twitter.com/ShehabKhan/status/1714243459861671987?t=IYNvh_6z2-B8e7t4T3KD7Q&s=19
View: https://twitter.com/ShehabKhan/status/1714243459861671987?t=IYNvh_6z2-B8e7t4T3KD7Q&s=19
winjim
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Starmer, Lammy and Thornberry are all complicit in my eyes. I said before that I would reluctantly vote Labour if I had to in order to keep a Tory out. No longer. I would rather have another five years of Tory government in this country than endorse the genocide of Palestinians.
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I almost feel sorry for them they're so weak.Im warming to the Tories 😲
After legally threatening Starmer.....Crispin Blunt has now physically assaulted Andrew Bridgen for calling him a "terrorist sympathiser"
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Cirrus
Active Member
Erm… aren’t the Tory government supporting Israel?
winjim
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I don't support the Tories and won't be voting for them.
multitool
Guest
In the grand scheme of things I doubt very much that Emily Thornbery equivocating or not will influence the Israelis that much.
The PM of the UK much more so. And this is the person Wimjim would like to see in power for another term. Makes total sense.
And back in the land of the sane, it is very clear that leaders cannot choose their words on the basis of what they think Israel might do. And now that the Israeli response is taking shape we are seeing that leaders are responding to what Israel is doing.
The PM of the UK much more so. And this is the person Wimjim would like to see in power for another term. Makes total sense.
And back in the land of the sane, it is very clear that leaders cannot choose their words on the basis of what they think Israel might do. And now that the Israeli response is taking shape we are seeing that leaders are responding to what Israel is doing.
winjim
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Go back and read it again, then have another try.
winjim
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If someone explicitly says they're going to commit a war crime, it's best to tell them that it's bad before they do it in the hope that they might be dissuaded. You don't wait until afterwards because by then it's too late and a load of people are already dead.
This isn't about something Israel might do, this is about something Israel absolutely said it was definitely going to do.
This isn't about something Israel might do, this is about something Israel absolutely said it was definitely going to do.
newfhouse
pleb
What? Are you saying that nobody should warn against a course of action but simply react after the fact?
I used to think that the Captain Hindsight jibe was a little unfair. You seem to see it as a positive attribute.
multitool
Guest
Nah, you're OK. My reading skills are just fine.
multitool
Guest
They have constraints upon them that you and I do not.
newfhouse
pleb
They have the responsibility and opportunity to influence events, something that you and I do not.
