Starmer's vision quest
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Rusty Nails
Country Member
All pre-election pledges are bullshit until the opportunity comes to put them into practice.
This applies to all political parties.
winjim
Welcome yourself into the new modern crisis
I don't recall Starmer yet having that opportunity.
multitool
Guest
The hard left are hoping that he won't.
It's always been the same story. The truth is the hard left don't really want to be in power because the hard left are all about purity, taking the easy moral highground, and grandstanding. See Corbyn and his "how virtuous am I" routine.
He didn't want to be in power. He wanted to be in opposition where he could say what he wanted and would never be held to account, never have to deliver and never have the stress of firefighting truly shît situations.
Contrast this with the Tories whose sole purpose is to be in power, are absolutely ruthless at gaining it, and astonishingly succesful at doing so.
The conversation here mirrors this. All we here is "waaaah waaaah moral purity" and complaints that the Labour party that is likely to win is not the Labour party they want. But the Labour party they want is not the one the electorate are willing to vote for.
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bobzmyunkle
Senior Member
Who are these people Toolzie?
I know you're a bit obsessed with Corbyn, but you can't seriously be referring to him as hard left can you?
Rusty Nails
Country Member
Well obviously. That was the point of my post.
Rusty Nails
Country Member
I don't always agree with the way you say things but this is one point I fully agree with.
winjim
Welcome yourself into the new modern crisis
I'm part of the electorate and I'm not willing to vote for this Labour party.
Rusty Nails
Country Member
I'd never have guessed from your comments.
Starmer will be hoping there are others to make up for your lost vote.
winjim
Welcome yourself into the new modern crisis
Well, swap 'MP' for 'vote' as Labour are predicted to lose their seat in my constituency but we all know he's a shoo-in, which is part of the reason I feel free to be as critical as I am and to urge people to vote with their conscience rather than for a least worst option against the current administration.
cookiemonster
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How long before these new Starmer pledges get ditched, like everything else in the past four years?
I'll give it a month.
I'll give it a month.
bobzmyunkle
Senior Member
We need to ensure they're preserved somehow. Keithstone doesn't quite have the right ring to it.
multitool
Guest
Have you seen this guys?
https://x.com/TottenhamConse1/status/1789907535912226994
Turns out Kier Starmer is a sex offender supporter.
Just adds to what you've all been saying about him.
Maybe you should all be thinking about joining the Tory party. Only they can protect us from this monster.
https://x.com/TottenhamConse1/status/1789907535912226994
Turns out Kier Starmer is a sex offender supporter.
Just adds to what you've all been saying about him.
Maybe you should all be thinking about joining the Tory party. Only they can protect us from this monster.
