Starmer's vision quest
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Beebo
Veteran
How many sitting MPs were deselected in favour of momentum candidates last time?
Ian H
Legendary Member
You'll have to do your own research for the answer, I'm afraid.
Xipe Totec
Something nasty in the woodshed
"I am told".
Well, not everyone can have a magic psychic hotline to Sir Starmer's cerebrum, can they?
And that's Faiza Shaheen been cruelly & abruptly defenestrated now as well. Starting to look a lot like an eleventh-hour purge.
View: https://x.com/LabourMuslims/status/1795941279810920688
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theclaud
Reading around the chip
Er, roughly none, IIRC. Feel free to name names if I'm mistaken. Many people, me included, called for mandatory reselection, which is just a fancy way of saying that a candidate has to be democratically selected every election. Corbyn never backed it, and now we've just got a legion of briefcase shitheads instead. 👍🏼
theclaud
Reading around the chip
I've Googled it for you...
Changes to make deselection of Labour MPs easier, by lowering the number of branches that have to vote to trigger a contest from 50% to 33%, were passed by a large majority at Labour's 2018 Party Conference.[12] However, the proposal made by a number of CLPs for open selections was not permitted to go to a vote, leading to criticism from Momentum who described the changes as "meager" with "key proposals being watered down".[13]
No Labour MPs were deselected during the leadership of Ed Miliband or the leadership of Jeremy Corbyn.
Changes to make deselection of Labour MPs easier, by lowering the number of branches that have to vote to trigger a contest from 50% to 33%, were passed by a large majority at Labour's 2018 Party Conference.[12] However, the proposal made by a number of CLPs for open selections was not permitted to go to a vote, leading to criticism from Momentum who described the changes as "meager" with "key proposals being watered down".[13]
No Labour MPs were deselected during the leadership of Ed Miliband or the leadership of Jeremy Corbyn.
cookiemonster
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Completely disgusting and full of rampant racism for no reason. 
View: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y5MOr_yshD8&t=145s
But I'm sure it'll be blamed on Corbyn somehow.
View: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y5MOr_yshD8&t=145s
But I'm sure it'll be blamed on Corbyn somehow.
cookiemonster
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Well, this is not a great start. And this is before the election.
https://www.islingtontribune.co.uk/...ilence-from-the-labour-hopeful-eyeing-up-seat
Just like the Labour leadership, there's no idea about what he stands for, he refuses to talk to potential constituents, refuses to answer questions from the media and his website has now been set to private.
What has he got to hide?
https://www.islingtontribune.co.uk/...ilence-from-the-labour-hopeful-eyeing-up-seat
Just like the Labour leadership, there's no idea about what he stands for, he refuses to talk to potential constituents, refuses to answer questions from the media and his website has now been set to private.
What has he got to hide?
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cookiemonster
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Are you f*cking serious?
Beebo
Veteran
It seems there were some. But my recollection was that it was more.
Keith Vaz deserved to go. But you can see from the article below an outside influence in some of these other cases. So this stuff has been going on in Labour for years. The leadership will shape the party to some extent.
And the Tories are just as bad. They deselected about 20 sitting MPs last time.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2019-50319044.amp
Bromptonaut
Rohan Man
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I think it's pretty clear what happened.
The Party leadership does not want her to stand. There was a plan to let her go quietly based on returning the whip but making clear, albeit in the kind of language an employer might use in a disciplinary process, that any attempt to stand would be vetoed. Probably included the 'bait' of a life peerage too.
Somebody then leaked to the Times (I think it was that paper) that she was banned from standing, blowing the whole thing out of the water and creating the unholy mess we see now.
Popcorn time!!
multitool
Guest
Of course I am. You are showing your own biases very clearly. Linking to Novara media etc etc, as if they are founts of impartiality
Abbott may be telling the truth, the leadership may want her out. Fair enough in my view, these people are an electoral liability, and I don't want another fiasco or any space for Tory attacks. It's weird how people here decry the power of the Tory client media and their unfairness, but at the same time cannot understand the discipline needed the counteract it.
You need to pause for a moment and consider why Abbott and Corbyn were suspended. It's a result of the legacy they created themselves.
multitool
Guest
Probably true. I wonder who leaked it to a Tory paper, and why they chose a Tory paper...
bobzmyunkle
Senior Member
Did they think they could keep it under wraps? Or did they leak it themselves, in the belief that it's a Red Wall vote winner?
