Starmer's vision quest

[Deleted member 49]

We always have to be careful of what we wish for.
This goes back to when Mugabwe got disowned by the socialist cause.
https://socialismtoday.org/archive/47/zimbabwe.html

WTF has this got to do with anything ?

 

[albion]

WTF has this got to do with anything ?

Where Mugabe ended up is a similar place to where this government was always predicted to end up towards.
They no got to continue the trend because people feared the direction Corbyn would take us. Which no doubt would be a very similar place, and possibly more a certainty.

 

[Deleted member 49]

Where Mugabe ended up is a similar place to where this government was always predicted to end up towards.
They no got to continue the trend because people feared the direction Corbyn would take us. Which no doubt would be a very similar place, and possibly more a certainty.

Not sure how I answer that except...maybe go for a ride and clear your head ?
From where we started to what we ended up with...even shocks me sometimes.Good job we've the right wing press to save us from what could have been 🙄
https://www.independent.co.uk/voice...er-jeremy-corbyn-as-pm-would-be-10475557.html

 

[albion]

The, now to be unknown, question about Corbyn is 'how many weeks would it have taken him to be sanctioned by the EU and/or US?'.

I do not think Corbyn would ever have allowed his hands to be tied behind his back.

 

[Deleted member 49]

The, now to be unknown, question about Corbyn is 'how many weeks would it have taken him to be sanctioned by the EU and/or US?'.

I do not think Corbyn would ever have allowed his hands to be tied behind his back.

I'm out

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[albion]

The danger here is that Brexit voters seem disinclined to vote for the Labour Brexit party.
However it still looks far fetched that an alternative far right party will win the next election.
https://www.theguardian.com/politic...rightwing-insurgency-warns-donor-lord-cruddas

Saying that,who would have predicted such a bonkers political state 7 years ago?

 

[RecordAceFromNew]

The programme:

Some other results:

Is it really so difficult for Starmer (or anyone else) to have a decent vision, when they could just take a look around, without prejudice? Or is the real challenge tactical, due to nearly insurmountable structural impediments?

Source of figures: Britain’s winter of discontent is the inevitable result of austerity - FT

 

[Deleted member 49]

Vision lol... someone change the thread title.

 

[Deleted member 49]

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The programme:

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Some other results:

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Is it really so difficult for Starmer (or anyone else) to have a decent vision, when they could just take a look around, without prejudice? Or is the real challenge tactical, due to nearly insurmountable structural impediments?

Source of figures: Britain’s winter of discontent is the inevitable result of austerity - FT

Austerity was a massive mistake....welcome to austerity round 2 !
I think the The Tories have surprised themselves how easy it's been.

 

[Deleted member 49]

LoL....she literally fecking put them in !

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[icowden]

LoL....she literally fecking put them in !

By quitting as a Conservative MP in 2019 when Boris became PM?

 

[Deleted member 49]

By quitting as a Conservative MP in 2019 when Boris became PM?

So anything pre PM Johnson was ok lol...
In December 2018 Soubry said she'd rather have a Tory Govt that left the EU than a Corbyn led Labour Govt that remained in it. For people like Soubry, the priority was never about stopping brexit, its always been about stopping a socialist Labour Govt.
Might I also suggest you take a look at her voting record ?

 

[icowden]

In December 2018 Soubry said she'd rather have a Tory Govt that left the EU than a Corbyn led Labour Govt that remained in it. For people like Soubry, the priority was never about stopping brexit, its always been about stopping a socialist Labour Govt.

Do you think it's possible that she might have changed her mind?

 

[Deleted member 49]

Do you think it's possible that she might have changed her mind?

Changed her mind about what exactly ? Campaigned for austerity that killed over 300,000 people and is proud of her record which includes....
51 X times cut benefits
14 X for the Bedroom Tax
14 X against bankers bonus tax
23 X to reduce corporation tax.
I'd like to think she can look back on that and think feck !
Anna Sourby changing colours and I'm meant to be what...excited,glad that she endorses Starmer.🙄

 

[newfhouse]

Being the sort of Labour leader that attracts support from (ex) Conservative ministers says quite a lot about Starmer, doesn’t it?