Starmer's vision quest

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multitool

Pharaoh
Hang on a minute - Corbyn shifted the terms l, and apparently you didn't like it. Starmer has clambered straight back onto the Tories' favourite territory - immigrants, flags, nostalgia, yoofs hanging around on bicycles, cracking down on anyone who upsets drivers. Yvette will be banging on about single mothers any minute now.

Exactly. He's not fighting them on those issues. He's issuing bland statements that don't give the Tories ground because has calculated that, in general, the country has lurched rightwards despite their disaffection with the Tories. Looked at the Guardian recently?

He's hoping that economic strife and accusations of cronyism and corruption will do for the Tories.
 
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End result of opposing this is same outcome. S35 passes. But he also opens himself up to highly damaging culture war attacks which, I believe, he cannot win. The Tories are fighting dirty, and the way to beat them is to not fight on their terms. It awful, but it's reality.

But you are now changing the goalposts. You posted that Stats for Lefties' bullsh1t which claimed that S35 could be stopped. It couldn't.

You still haven't explained what it was that I said about Brexit voting demographics that you consider to be "talking sh1te". If you are going to open your hole like then then back it up. Otherwise STFU.
STFU ? who the feck do you think you are.Ill decide what I say and when I say it.Dont like it tough,don't fecking answer me then.
Your pissed off because I put something about Starmer abstaining...lol about sums you up.
I never mentioned stopping anything,I said he's meant to oppose.Does it niggle you that deep down you know he's weak ?
I don't give two fecks about your Brexit voting demographics.But in your first post you give the classic patronizing sh1te "it was the uneducated" and a few posts later It was .....
It was emphatically old (predominantly middle-class) people in the south. (especially south east).
You could always ignore me...or there's some soaps on if your at a loose end.
Northern ones with all those thick daffodil$ in em.
 

Ian H

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We had a long jump pit so I guess that's mine...

I rather hope that I'm continuing to educate myself, or am open to being educated.
 

multitool

Pharaoh
That is a mistake which nobody is making, apart from Adam but thats hardly surprising :whistle: He also thinks that non-graduates cannot be middle class.

Also worth pointing out that given the older age demographic of brexit voters, they are less likely to have high education levels when compared to younger demographics. 4% of school leavers went to university in the 1960s compared to nearly 40% in 2016. And, of course, this is a country with an ageing population.
 
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You do like a nice self-own, don't you.
There is loads of analysis of Brexit vote. You could have looked it up before making a fool of yourself.

I was taking the pi$$ you knobber, the standard reply from people on here is to ask for a 'source ' every time anyone gives an opinion, you lot just don't see it do you?

It makes Brexit even more enjoyable for me to think you self appointed experts that know better have been trumped by us thicko's!

Who's the fool now eh?
 

multitool

Pharaoh
I was taking the pi$$ you knobber, the standard reply from people on here is to ask for a 'source ' every time anyone gives an opinion, you lot just don't see it do you?

It makes Brexit even more enjoyable for me to think you self appointed experts that know better have been trumped by us thicko's!

Who's the fool now eh?

Normally you own your own stupidity and parade it as a badge of pride. I'm surprised to see you resorting to lying with some sort of feeble post hoc justification.
 
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