Starmer's vision quest
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C R
Guru
I've not been around here for a while, and if I click on the usual "catch up from where I left" link, I find I have over a hundred more pages to read. There are limits to my dedication. It's Starmer's fault of course - as someone put it on Twitter, "Everyone hates him for different reasons, and they all have a point." But I'm looking for a bit of in-forum guidance as to what I've missed, on this thread or elsewhere. Summarize and/or point me to some highlights?
Oh, and hello.
Starmer has disappeared so far up Trump's ärse that if you look carefully you can see the light sparkling on Starmer's designer glasses at the back of Trump's throat.
matticus
Guru
I used to wonder what people meant by "You're just happy in your echo chamber!!!"
Pross
Regular
He's like a PM with a small majority a year out from an election rather than one with a huge majority a year into government. Whilst it's an improvement on the utter incompetence of the Tories since 2016 he's been a major disappointment, I really don't know where we go from here politically as a country.
Pross
Regular
You're going to have to explain to me what is a lot worse than it was under the previous shambles. It's not improved much and Starmer is coming across as very weak but at least he's managed a year as PM without having to fight off a leadership challenge.
icowden
Shaman
I wouldn't say it has got worse. I would say it hasn't got better. I'd also say that it wasn't like there was a third option of "competent government who will move for closer ties with Europe, impose taxes on multinational transactions to plug the budget deficit and bring in sweeping subsidies for renewable energy products.
theclaud
Reading around the chip
Almost looks like he's going down to kiss Trumps feet. I despair at his (lack of) performance.
Weird thing is that when he took the Labour leadership from Corbyn others (elsewhere) were saying how dull he was and what a failure he'll be but I was the one saying he'd do well, sensible person considers things rather than jumping in ... and I was completely wrong.
Ian
icowden
Shaman
Same here. I thought, here's a former Barrister, someone intelligent, able to think on his feet. Should be ok.
Instead he just appears to be doing knee-jerk politics in exactly the same way as his useless predecessors. He's forgotten which party he leads and appears to be hankering after Farage's support.
I just don't get it. I think we should give Angela Rayner or Jess Philips a go.
Ian H
Squire
I've not been around here for a while, and if I click on the usual "catch up from where I left" link, I find I have over a hundred more pages to read. There are limits to my dedication. It's Starmer's fault of course - as someone put it on Twitter, "Everyone hates him for different reasons, and they all have a point." But I'm looking for a bit of in-forum guidance as to what I've missed, on this thread or elsewhere. Summarize and/or point me to some highlights?
Oh, and hello.
There's been an influx of refugees from elsewhere - some odd, others not quite so odd. But at least Matticus is still churning out the witticisms.
First Aspect
Well-Known Member
In think this illustrates the Noddy in Toyland level that most of the electorate operate at, more than his actual performance. Hence why populists get so much traction these days, with their false promises.
Rusty Nails
Country Member
Most of them still waiting to see if their asylum requests will be approved, even though they clearly fled from a terrible regime. One or two look a bit shifty and their claims should be rejected even though YTSAndy has offered them 4* accommodation.
On the Starmer front @theclaud, mea culpa. I was wrong and am still waiting for evidence of a forensic approach. I believe the benefit changes will be the start of a backlash from MPs.
I think it started with the Winter Fuel Allowance and that was close on Starmer Day One.
I don't appreciate the complexities of the benefit system and don't know the how disabled you have to be to receive the various disability benefits. But I do feel uncomfortable from removing or reducing benefits to some of the most vulnerable in society, particularly when full impact assessments have not been published (underway?). And it's the Government ploughing ahead without full impact assessments - strikes me as "something needs to be done, this is something so we're doing it". I can accept that "something needs to be done" but I'm not convinced those being expected to pass the changes have information they need to understand the full impact and as we are making changes for many of the most vulnerable understanding the impact is crucial.
Ian
theclaud
Reading around the chip
That's the important thing.
