BoldonLad
Old man on a bike. Not a member of a clique.
- Location
- South Tyneside
Deliberately chooses to opt out? Is that a blanket condition, or, are there acceptable reasons/ excuses?
Strike!
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Deliberately chooses to opt out? Is that a blanket condition, or, are there acceptable reasons/ excuses?
Rusty Nails
Country Member
Union membership is not compulsory.
Everyone will have a reason, some arguably more reasonable than others, but the voluntary nature means they all have to be accepted.
BoldonLad
Old man on a bike. Not a member of a clique.
- Location
- South Tyneside
Yes, but, the question was not about only union membership.
MrGrumpy
Regular
don’t know what job you do or what industry you work in but I’m 100% sure that the terms and conditions that you have currently were fought for at some level by a trades union .
Rusty Nails
Country Member
My answer, in keeping with the thread subject, was.
But if there is another specific example you have in mind don't keep us in suspenders.
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Deleted member 49
Guest
I asked a while ago.....maybe it's one of those trick questions ?My answer, in keeping with the thread subject, was.
But if there is another specific example you have in mind don't keep us in suspenders.
Like a gotcha 🙄
Craig the cyclist
Über Member
Why can't you stop yourself being abusive as soon as someone offers a different opinion?
People have different opinions on just abut everything, does that make them automatically 'weird' if their opinion differs to yours?
If you really backed the rail workers fight for more money you would make a stand and not use the railways, or P&O ferries.
Craig the cyclist
Über Member
Not at all, always happy to buy you a pint if you are ever in the South West.
I also won't feck off and leave people stranded miles away from home, or ruin their lives by downing tools and behaving like a petulant child.
newfhouse
pleb
Not abusive in my view but maybe a little intemperate on this occasion. If you are truly upset I am sorry.
My point stands though. Could you explain your pride in never having been in a union? I mean, maybe you don’t agree with collective bargaining but how does that position make you proud? As for the freeloading, I notice you didn’t respond to that part of my post.
I won’t attempt to use the railways on a strike day even if some services are running, and I won’t sail with P&O until they change their employment practices.
qigong chimp
Settler of gobby hash.
Have you, by any chance, traveled each and every highway?
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Deleted member 49
Guest
Who's leaving people stranded ? They were warned before the strike.
You do know how they can solve this dispute don't you ?
Royal Mail ballot this week,BT....expect more strikes.
glasgowcyclist
Über Member
winjim
Welcome yourself into the new modern crisis
In Craig's defence, he claims to be a nurse so may well work in the NHS. The trade unions in healthcare let their workers down really badly during negotiations for the last pay deal and only realised that the government had pulled a fast one when it was too late. Ten years ago we went on strike, ostensibly over pensions but actually over general NHS reforms. Our pensions still got taken away. As soon as I was in a position where I could leave my union and join a more specialist one, I did.
I'm aware that there is more to trade unionism than the big negotiations and I'm sure that they do plenty behind the scenes as it were, both at individual level and in consultations with executives etc but there are examples where unions have badly let down their members, who pay their subs every month. Even the much lauded Mick Lynch and the RMT were, I understand, supporters of Brexit and I can't imagine that's done their members much good.
I'm aware that there is more to trade unionism than the big negotiations and I'm sure that they do plenty behind the scenes as it were, both at individual level and in consultations with executives etc but there are examples where unions have badly let down their members, who pay their subs every month. Even the much lauded Mick Lynch and the RMT were, I understand, supporters of Brexit and I can't imagine that's done their members much good.
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Deleted member 49
Guest
It was a democratic vote,I don't remember any pressure to vote one way or the other by the RMT.Theres plenty of Trade Unionists,Socialists who voted leave and that was their right.Id be wary of anyone who tries to use this to discredit the strike itself.
I think it's a good thing in a way that the right wing media can't accuse him of being a Lefty woke remainer 🙄
winjim
Welcome yourself into the new modern crisis
Firstly it wasn't a democratic vote, secondly a union supporting or opposing a political decision will affect the way its members vote, that's the point, thirdly I'm not discrediting the strike and fourthly and most importantly I paid subs to Unite for about fifteen years and for that I got a pay freeze, a devalued pension, lost pay through striking, and Brexit. I would literally be better off if I'd never joined, to the tune of about two and a half grand.
