Strike!

[jowwy]

40k is not the salary of 'as senior a nurse as you can get'.

Maybe this is wrong then....maybe theres more senior nurses, than senior nurses, i dont know........but this is what google came up with when i asked for the average salary of a senior nurse.

Maybe next time i'll ask a daily mail reader or the express or telegraph.....

 

[jowwy]

. Up to £110,000

So its upto 110k and not actually 110k.......that can mean between 0k -110k.

Again, give us facts and not possiblies or shaky guarantees.

 

[Craig the cyclist]

Maybe this is wrong then....maybe theres more senior nurses, than senior nurses, i dont know........but this is what google came up with when i asked for the average salary of a senior nurse.

Maybe next time i'll ask a daily mail reader or the express or telegraph.....

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Senior nurse, senior nurse, senior nurse, then you show us the salary of a Senior Staff Nurse!

Amazing what a difference a single word makes eh?

 

[winjim]

Maybe this is wrong then....maybe theres more senior nurses, than senior nurses, i dont know........but this is what google came up with when i asked for the average salary of a senior nurse.

Maybe next time i'll ask a daily mail reader or the express or telegraph.....

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Just ask someone familiar with the staff structure and pay scales in the NHS.

'Senior' in the NHS is a job title. It doesn't mean 'as senior as you can get'. I'm a trainee, when I qualify I'll be a 'senior' but still subordinate to a 'principal'.

 

[jowwy]

Senior nurse, senior nurse, senior nurse, then you show us the salary of a Senior Staff Nurse!

Amazing what a difference a single word makes eh?

maybe you should read it again

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read what is says on the first line......it says " what does a senior nurse earn in the NHS?"

so whats the difference between a senior staff nurse and a senior nurse...provide information, not just little bits, but all of it.

 

[jowwy]

Just ask someone familiar with the staff structure and pay scales in the NHS.

'Senior' in the NHS is a job title. It doesn't mean 'as senior as you can get'. I'm a trainee, when I qualify I'll be a 'senior' but still subordinate to a 'principal'.

well if your familiar, then put the right farking salary in, instead of being a farkwit and just quoting me back what google told me......

i have no clue what you do as a job, so how the feck would i know if your familiar with NHS staff structure or not.

Another typical reply to the poster, rather than the post.

 

[winjim]

well if your familiar, then put the right farking salary in, instead of being a farkwit and just quoting me back what google told me......

i have no clue what you do as a job, so how the feck would i know if your familiar with NHS staff structure or not.

Another typical reply to the poster, rather than the post.

Slow down, go back and read the edit.

I think Craig is being deliberately provocative with his claim of 110k and my estimate for 'about as senior a nurse as you can get' would be probably band 8b which is up to about 65k.

As it happens, I'm not posting for your benefit but to provide information for other people who may be reading the thread.

 

[jowwy]

Slow down, go back and read the edit.

what edit??? so upto 65k....so they could be on 40k at the lower end then??? or is the band not that big....i mean if the average is 40.....that could mean 20k trainee to upto 60/64k senior

 

[winjim]

what edit??? so upto 65k....so they could be on 40k at the lower end then??? or is the band not that big....i mean if the average is 40.....that could mean 20k trainee to upto 60/64k senior

If you want to look it up, the NHS pay system is known as 'Agenda for Change'.

Vacancies are advertised on 'NHS Jobs'.

If we are going to discuss strike action over pay in the NHS, it would be useful to familiarise ourselves with the basics of the pay structure.

 

[jowwy]

If we are going to discuss strike action over pay in the NHS, it would be useful to familiarise ourselves with the basics of the pay structure.

What an odd stance to take...people dont need to know pay structures to discuss strikes. They just need to know whats being offered as a payrise......

i couldnt give a feck if you was on a million a year, you get paid for the job you do and that means you should get a pay rise the same as every other NHS employee........as long as its fair and equal.

 

[Craig the cyclist]

maybe you should read it again


read what is says on the first line......it says " what does a senior nurse earn in the NHS?"

so whats the difference between a senior staff nurse and a senior nurse...provide information, not just little bits, but all of it.

You go and read it again.

You searched for 'What does a senior nurse earn', then you read the answer to 'What does a senior staff nurse earn'. They are two different things.

In a nutshell, a senior staff nurse will be leading a ward team on a day to day basis or working autonomously in a non-ward setting. A senior nurse is probably someone more like me doing what I do, or managing a whole service with multiple teams. As high as a nurse can go will be Director of Nursing, Chief Nurse, maybe even a COO or CEO etc.

 

[jowwy]

You go and read it again.

You searched for 'What does a senior nurse earn', then you read the answer to 'What does a senior staff nurse earn'. They are two different things.

In a nutshell, a senior staff nurse will be leading a ward team on a day to day basis or working autonomously in a non-ward setting. A senior nurse is probably someone more like me doing what I do, or managing a whole service with multiple teams. As high as a nurse can go will be Director of Nursing, Chief Nurse, maybe even a COO or CEO etc.

i think your lying through your teeth, just to get people to bite..........but thats nothing new on these types of threads.

I personally hope nurses of any type get the payrise they deserve, its better than giving it to MPs who deserve feck all.

 

[Craig the cyclist]

I think Craig is being deliberately provocative with his claim of 110k and my estimate for 'about as senior a nurse as you can get' would be probably band 8b which is up to about 65k.

Not wishing to start a row with you on this one, but I am an 8b (haven't I done well?), and I have a ton of registered nurses above me. Logically I would say 8c/d is the end of what you might call proper clinicians (Consultant nurses, Consultant Physios/Paramedics etc) and you are well into the stratosphere of nurses who only get reminded of what a patient looks like when they do a walk around with the Secretary of State!

It is the same in all areas of clinical work in the NHS there is no obvious and accessible route to progression to higher bands except for a very few people. I think that making those progressions more straight forward would be better than a pay rise. I know so many good clinicians who get promoted, and eventually they reach the very high bands and are completely shit at what they need to do. That is because they are excellent clinicians, brilliant with patients and diagnosing and treating, and particularly shit with endless reports, bids and management bollox. Ultimately they fail and are remembered as being useless, it is a very sad living and breathing example of the Peter Principle.

 

[Craig the cyclist]

i think your lying through your teeth, just to get people to bite..........but thats nothing new on these types of threads.

I personally hope nurses of any type get the payrise they deserve, its better than giving it to MPs who deserve feck all.

Eh? Which bit do you think is a lie?

 

[jowwy]

Eh? Which bit do you think is a lie?

quite a bit of it...its scaremongering at its very best. But crack on fella, i can see your turning people to your way of thinking, NOT