Xipe Totec
Something nasty in the woodshed
Forbes reckons she gives "straight answers to straight questions".
Hard to argue, tbh.
Hard to argue, tbh.
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Xipe Totec
Something nasty in the woodshed
In her latest 'straight talking' outburst, she appears to have said that trans women are, in her view, biological males.
Which, awkwardly, constitutes a breach of the SNP's own rules on transphobia:
View: https://twitter.com/MhairiHunter/status/1363858296524931077?s=20
Oops.
Which, awkwardly, constitutes a breach of the SNP's own rules on transphobia:
View: https://twitter.com/MhairiHunter/status/1363858296524931077?s=20
Oops.
multitool
Pharaoh
Turns out Forbes backed gender reform bill whilst cabinet secretary
https://www.scotsman.com/news/polit...r-reform-bill-while-cabinet-secretary-4036186
...ho hum
https://www.scotsman.com/news/polit...r-reform-bill-while-cabinet-secretary-4036186
...ho hum
How does the guideline that it is transphobic to impute the actual or perceived wrongdoing of one trans person to the group as a whole equate with the notion that white heteronormative males are responsible for the ills of the world as a class?
theclaud
Reading around the chip
Yawn.
monkers
Legendary Member
Oh dear it's that word 'equate' causing you problems again. It doesn't suggest any attempt to 'equate' one thing with the other - that was 'all inside your head', just like the other times.
multitool
Pharaoh
AuroraSaab
Squire
She was always a bit of a non starter candidate. 99.9% of the world are transphobic going by that list though.
AuroraSaab
Squire
Right. I understand why this is funny. But what's the ironing board meme about?
Makes me realise how little Scottish news (and NI and Wales I suppose) makes it into English newspapers and websites.
Edit: Nevermind. Scottish Twitter folk have started explaining it to the rest of us. Bit of an unfounded rumour/conspiracy theory apparently, which explains why it wasn't in the news.
Makes me realise how little Scottish news (and NI and Wales I suppose) makes it into English newspapers and websites.
Edit: Nevermind. Scottish Twitter folk have started explaining it to the rest of us. Bit of an unfounded rumour/conspiracy theory apparently, which explains why it wasn't in the news.
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Milzy
Well-Known Member
Yes I know the law but I’d put it up to 18. They can do what they like for me as long as they’re happy.
AuroraSaab
Squire
One of the criticisms of the Cass report, apart from rushing kids onto puberty blockers before exploring their numerous issues, was that the Tavistock didn't keep adequate records. Noone knows what the regret rate is because many kids dropped off the records and there is poor long term follow up to see what happened. There's often a period of initial euphoria and regret doesn't kick in til later when you realise transitioning didn't solve all your problems and gender dysphoria was a symptom of them not the solution.
(I'm talking about children and under 25 ish here obviously, not people in their 30's/40's/50's who have had years to think it through).
(I'm talking about children and under 25 ish here obviously, not people in their 30's/40's/50's who have had years to think it through).
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All three candidates for the SNP leadership race, replacing Sturgeon have stated that they believe Scotland can be independent in 5 years when asked directly "If you win, will Scotland become independent within five years?"
Responding:
Humza Yousaf says: "I believe it can be and I want to be the one to deliver it but we have to stop talking about policy... and build a consistent majority for independence."
Kate Forbes says she believes Scottish independence will come sooner than in five years. "If you make the case and see the dial shift in support, there will be a route forward."
Ash Regan says Scotland will become independent in five years if she becomes first minister. For her "it's urgent - I want us to have all the power to create a better country for the people who live here". She says she would use a "voter empowerment mechanism to give people the power to say when they're ready for independence.
Interesting all three answer yes but talk about building support and i have no idea what "voter empowerment mechanism" means.
Responding:
Humza Yousaf says: "I believe it can be and I want to be the one to deliver it but we have to stop talking about policy... and build a consistent majority for independence."
Kate Forbes says she believes Scottish independence will come sooner than in five years. "If you make the case and see the dial shift in support, there will be a route forward."
Ash Regan says Scotland will become independent in five years if she becomes first minister. For her "it's urgent - I want us to have all the power to create a better country for the people who live here". She says she would use a "voter empowerment mechanism to give people the power to say when they're ready for independence.
Interesting all three answer yes but talk about building support and i have no idea what "voter empowerment mechanism" means.
Xipe Totec
Something nasty in the woodshed
It's waffling, empty and meaningless bollocks. Unfortunately the reason why we are left with these three no-marks to choose from is because no-one of any substance in Holyrood will go near it.
The leader/FM role is a poisoned chalice now, whoever occupies that position cannot deliver on the promises of the 2021 election because the Supreme Court ruled that Scotland has no ability to make its own decision on independence without permission that both Tory & Labour parties have sworn they will never give, regardless of the circumstances.
There is not, and will never be a legitimate route to independence under the existing UK system.
The leader/FM role is a poisoned chalice now, whoever occupies that position cannot deliver on the promises of the 2021 election because the Supreme Court ruled that Scotland has no ability to make its own decision on independence without permission that both Tory & Labour parties have sworn they will never give, regardless of the circumstances.
There is not, and will never be a legitimate route to independence under the existing UK system.
icowden
Squire
Well, if they didn't say that they thought that, they wouldn't be running for leader of a party whose key mission is Scottish independence, would they? As @Xipe Totec said. It's meaningless rowlocks.
It would be like asking a Labour leader if they supported Unions or a Conservative Leader if they were going to cut taxes.
bobzmyunkle
Senior Member
What is Sir Keir's position on that?
