The UK’s broken asylum system

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All uphill

Well-Known Member
My limited experience with the asylum system in the UK suggests three sources of beastliness and some positives that you have pointed out @Pale Rider .

The beastlinesses are, imo

Huge delay in dealing with asylum claims, leaving people safe (a positive) but costing us a fortune and wasting their skills.

A dysfunctional asylum claim system that can really only be navigated by a person with a high level of skill. Perfect for abusers of a system, but not for genuine new arrivals.

The absence of safe routes for asylum seekers.

I got a like from @Pale Rider and one from @mudsticks !

Clearly I have a broad appeal and should be the next PM.
 
Was the woman and her child badly or well treated?

Not that binary is it.

Provision over the last six years was barely adequate.

It's much worse now.
 

Pale Rider

Veteran
It's almost as if Pale Rider has no brain at all.

It’s like Shep with a bit of grammar.

No answers, just insults.

What a waste of space.

Not that binary is it.

Provision over the last six years was barely adequate.

It's much worse now.

It is when it suits, over in the Prince Andrew thread you are liking posts which complain the Queen's contribution to the country is too 'intangible'.

It is a simple question, was this woman treated badly or well?

I can't get an answer from anyone for the simple reason it's obvious she was reasonably well treated, but that doesn't fit the fixed anti-government agenda.


Another asylum story that falls at the final hurdle.

Further, this woman has been in the UK illegally for 19 years, successfully claiming free bed and board, education, and healthcare for all that time.

Despite her circumstances hanging by a thread, a few years ago she thought it a good idea to have a child.

Seems an obvious case to me of deliberately getting pregnant because she judged, correctly, it will be much more difficult to deport the pair of them as a family unit.

She's now - generously - been allowed to appeal for both herself and the child.

I doubt many other countries would be so accommodating of a criminal.

Come on woke lefties, finding asylum stories in which the seeker is genuinely badly treated should be easy.

But it appears not to be.

I wonder why that is.
 

The Crofted Crest

Active Member
No answers, just insults.

What a waste of space.



It is when it suits, over in the Prince Andrew thread you are liking posts which complain the Queen's contribution to the country is too 'intangible'.

It is a simple question, was this woman treated badly or well?

I can't get an answer from anyone for the simple reason it's obvious she was reasonably well treated, but that doesn't fit the fixed anti-government agenda.



Another asylum story that falls at the final hurdle.

Further, this woman has been in the UK illegally for 19 years, successfully claiming free bed and board, education, and healthcare for all that time.

Despite her circumstances hanging by a thread, a few years ago she thought it a good idea to have a child.

Seems an obvious case to me of deliberately getting pregnant because she judged, correctly, it will be much more difficult to deport the pair of them as a family unit.

She's now - generously - been allowed to appeal for both herself and the child.

I doubt many other countries would be so accommodating of a criminal.

Come on woke lefties, finding asylum stories in which the seeker is genuinely badly treated should be easy.

But it appears not to be.

I wonder why that is.

As I said, beyond performative.
 

mudsticks

Squire
Conspiracy theory claptrap.

Was the woman and her child badly or well treated?

It's a simple enough question.

The delay in the application was poor, but she was reasonably well looked after in the meantime.

But all you can do is bang on about 'othering', 'bad actors' and the like.

Get your head out of your backside and consider the practicalities of the situation.

I seem to recall your claiming that you'd like for posts here to be anonymous.
I don't see how that would help you case

Regular repetition of sneering slurs such as 'claptrap' 'bang on' 'head out of backside' and all the rest of it make it very obvious from whom these dismissive diatribe emanate.

Is that how you converse with people on a daily basis??
I pity any of your acquaintance who ever dare to have an opinion that differs from yours.

You keep saying that 'other' people can't cope with an opinion that differs from theirs, but in fact you are 100% describing yourself

Which isn't another 'insult' as you'll probably claim, it's an observation on your own contemptuous way of relating to others who 'think differently'

I wasn't referring to this case in particular, although having to rehome yourself and a child within a week is a ridiculous thing to expect.

I rather doubt you've ever found yourself under that kind of pressure as a parent in a precarious situation, otherwise you might be able to summon up a shred of compassion.

I was referring to the government attitude to this situation overall, which is in turn stoked up and reinforced by nasty populist media reporting.

Narratives that love to have some easy victims to punch down upon, and people to demonise as supposedly 'dragging this country down' rather than really face up to the realities of abysmal mismanagement, and neglect of our so called 'government' on this issue, and many others.

They are the major culprits.

It's the case that some people don't want to acknowledge what is, and has gone on
 
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icowden

Legendary Member
Further, this woman has been in the UK illegally for 19 years, successfully claiming free bed and board, education, and healthcare for all that time.
Wow. Any evidence for this sweeping statement? Sure, currently she is not allowed to work while she appeals her case, due to stupid rules by Government. She states that she *wants* to work. Not only that but you have no idea why she arrived in the UK from Nigeria aged 16. SHe was brought over as a child.

Despite her circumstances hanging by a thread, a few years ago she thought it a good idea to have a child.
Again. Sweeping statement. You have no idea about the circumstances under which she became pregnant. She may have been under coercive control, she could have been raped. She might just have met someone nice and accidentally got pregnant. I'd guess that it's unlikely she went - "I know - getting pregnant will really help my circumstances about now".
She's now - generously - been allowed to appeal for both herself and the child.
No - the Home Office admitted that they farked up.
I doubt many other countries would be so accommodating of a criminal.
She isn't a criminal. She has not committed any crime.
Come on woke lefties, finding asylum stories in which the seeker is genuinely badly treated should be easy.
But it appears not to be.
I wonder why that is.
Because generally speaking, we are a nice country with people who genuinely want to help other people. It's the few utter cockwombles like Braverman and Patel that are just vicious racists pushing far right propaganda and claiming to represent "the people" whilst they do fark all to address the ominshambles they have made of the system through systematic defunding.
 
Further, this woman has been in the UK illegally for 19 years, successfully claiming free bed and board, education, and healthcare for all that time.
Is that true?

Nothing in the report linked upthread explains much about how she arrived in the UK although it seems she did so as a minor.

Neither is there anything to say she was getting free bed and board.

She might have been on benefits. Or she might have worked until the requirement to show one is legally in the UK to work bit. That, after all, is how the Windrush scandal caught its victims.
 
It is when it suits, over in the Prince Andrew thread you are liking posts which complain the Queen's contribution to the country is too 'intangible'.
As I've said before you cannot attach great weight to my liking posts or to the emoticon I use.

If I think a post is funny or apt, even if I don't agree, then I might hit like. Similar to a grin or a momentary LOL in a F2F encounter; don't attach too much to it.
 

AndyRM

Elder Goth
As I've said before you cannot attach great weight to my liking posts or to the emoticon I use.

If I think a post is funny or apt, even if I don't agree, then I might hit like. Similar to a grin or a momentary LOL in a F2F encounter; don't attach too much to it.

It's cute when folk get het up about who likes a post, then deny that they care about likes. Even better when they create an imaginary clique of users based on who likes what.
 
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