All uphill
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My reading of Dutch government figures (from SER) suggests 42% of refugees aged 18 to 65 are in work after 5 years. Some may also be eligible for in work benefits.
Where do your figures come from?
The UK’s broken asylum system
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My reading of Dutch government figures (from SER) suggests 42% of refugees aged 18 to 65 are in work after 5 years. Some may also be eligible for in work benefits.
Where do your figures come from?
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glasgowcyclist
Über Member
Just to add to the previously cited examples, here’s the latest result of a public inquiry.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-sussex-66846891
A public inquiry into a migrant removal centre found a toxic culture with detainees forcibly moved while naked and some subjected to unnecessary pain.
It found migrants at Brook House, near Gatwick Airport, were subjected to degrading treatment and to racist and derogatory language by staff.
The inquiry was triggered by a BBC Panorama investigation in 2017.
Inquiry chair Kate Eves recommended that the government change the law to limit detention at such centres.
Ms Eves called for a 28-day time limit for holding detainees.
There is currently no maximum period detainees can be held while they wait to be deported or fight for asylum.
The Brook House Inquiry Report found it to be a place of "stress and distress".
The inquiry identified 19 instances over a five-month period that amounted to mistreatment contrary to Article 3 of the European Convention on Human Rights, which protects you from inhumane, degrading treatment or punishment.
The 19 instances of mistreatment identified by the inquiry included:
- Inappropriate use of force against 10 detainees
- Forcibly moving detainees while naked or near naked
- Unnecessary pain used on four detainees
- Dangerous restraint techniques used on four detainees
- Use of inappropriate and humiliating comments against two detainees during suicide attempts
- Homophobic comments against one detainee
- Initially failing to help a detainee after a suicide attempt
The centre was found to be overcrowded, dirty and noisy from aircraft at nearby Gatwick, while there were limited activities for detainees and prolific use of the so-called zombie drug Spice, with evidence custody officers were bringing it into the centre.
Ms Eves' report found staff had used inappropriate and dangerous force. In some incidents, teams of custody officers carried detainees naked and screaming through Brook House.
The report also found there was abusive and racist language used, including in two cases where detainees were trying to kill themselves.
newfhouse
pleb
I’d like to see royalty treated like refugees, which is to say given assistance to get proper jobs and make their own way in life.
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glasgowcyclist
Über Member
It’s the Illegal Migration Act 2023. Yes, that legislation did make it impossible for those who arrived at the UK on or after 20 July 2023 to have their asylum claim processed, and it was in violation of the UK’s human rights obligations.
But the good news is that, as of last week, regulations to amend the IMA 2024 have come into effect, returning the right to everyone who came here on or after 20 July 2023 to now have their claim heard and be granted refugee status if successful.
So your ‘illegal immigrant‘ is no longer treated as such.
Bet that’s cheered you up!
AndyRM
Elder Goth
And what a successful piece of legislation that has proved (not) to be, largely because the asylum process is farcical.
The picture you seem to enjoy painting of thousands of machete wielding migrants floating over here on dinghies just isn't happening.
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Knife crime at all time high, asylum process is an absolute disgrace on all fronts.
If you ditch your documents, don't have valid visa. Off you go there and then. That how it should work
If you ditch your documents, don't have valid visa. Off you go there and then. That how it should work
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glasgowcyclist
Über Member
I was going to put this in the Good News thread but it’s relevant here: the government has opened a pathway for parents and children separated from family during the chaotic evacuation of Kabul three years ago, allowing them to apply to join their family here in the UK.
It’s about time too, these people have been treated abysmally.
It’s about time too, these people have been treated abysmally.
ebikeerwidnes
Senior Member
ebikeerwidnes
Senior Member
Looks like the Southport "protests" have moved to London
to protest about the immigrant
that was born in Cardiff
and came over on the boats
but was born in Cardiff and moved to Lancashire a while ago
but was certainly Islamic
except that the Police have said there was no connection to Islam
But anyway - people need to know the answers!!!!
but as they have already attacked the Mosque near the dance club - so that'll teach them!
but they have brought beer with them so clearly the protest will be peaceful and be focussed on the important points and a sensible solution
and not just a riot and violence and possible some looting
to protest about the immigrant
that was born in Cardiff
and came over on the boats
but was born in Cardiff and moved to Lancashire a while ago
but was certainly Islamic
except that the Police have said there was no connection to Islam
But anyway - people need to know the answers!!!!
but as they have already attacked the Mosque near the dance club - so that'll teach them!
but they have brought beer with them so clearly the protest will be peaceful and be focussed on the important points and a sensible solution
and not just a riot and violence and possible some looting
ebikeerwidnes
Senior Member
Person arrested for the Southport incident has been named - no need to put it here
seems like the surname is mostly from Uganda - so Rwanda seem reasonable which is a country with on a 2% Muslim population
but the nutters still want to riot for $reasons
and the parents are still grieving - not that the rioters care
Nice to see the whole community have got together to help people clear up
local builders have turned up with people and materials and are fixing walls and stuff for free
looks very much like the riots involved very few, if any, local people - which is no surprise
seems like the surname is mostly from Uganda - so Rwanda seem reasonable which is a country with on a 2% Muslim population
but the nutters still want to riot for $reasons
and the parents are still grieving - not that the rioters care
Nice to see the whole community have got together to help people clear up
local builders have turned up with people and materials and are fixing walls and stuff for free
looks very much like the riots involved very few, if any, local people - which is no surprise
