These Covid Polices Are Going Well .....

[Bromptonaut]

But during the lockdowns, people were not allowed to just phone in sick and claim SSP. They were at work and working, or on furlough. I am sorry, I don't get where SSP comes in to it?

You appear to be conflating furlough with SSP.

Furlough protected the jobs of those in industries where business stopped or fell off a cliff during the pandemic, including those prevented from trading during lockdowns. Examples would be airlines, pubs and eateries and non essential retail. It covered 80% of pay.

Statutory Sick Pay is £96.35/week. It's payable whilst the employee is unable to work due to ill health. During the pandemic it has also been paid to those who are isolating, see https://www.gov.uk/statutory-sick-pay under the heading 'If you cannot work because of Coronavirus'. People absolutely were able to phone in sick or report themselves isolating and get SSP.

If your normal earnings are, say, £500/week suddenly only getting £96.35 is a helluva cut. A lot of people who should have self isolated didn't because they literally couldn't afford it.

In theory people on SSP can get it topped up by Universal Credit. The reality is that (a) you have to wait 5 weeks for the first payment and (b) the monthly payment calculation means that when they're back in work after 10 days the normal pay in the rest of the Assessment Period means they get nothing.

 

[deptfordmarmoset]

@BoldonLad - about my earlier post on figures of almost 100,000, here's Zoe's weekly summary dealing with some of the topics discussed.

 

[cookiemonster]

https://nypost.com/2021/11/09/broth...ree-sexual-session-in-bold-incentive-program/

An Austrian brothel has a different policy it seems.

 

[theclaud]

https://nypost.com/2021/11/09/broth...ree-sexual-session-in-bold-incentive-program/

An Austrian brothel has a different policy it seems.

"Think of it as a sexy nurse role-playing scenario but with actual medical care."

Repugnant. This is funny tho:


View: https://twitter.com/kroschel/status/1455647972138569733?t=n8FI_2U5s3LvjChH3k-bnA&s=19

 

[mjr]

Kicking off in Belgium as a regional court rules that some current uses of covid certificates are illegal because they violate a fundamental human right to privacy. The government will appeal. https://www.dhnet.be/actu/belgique/...e-ticket-en-wallonie-61a6597d7b50a648b205e3ee

Don't rule out constitutional change to make it legal, because over 60% there now favor compulsory vaccination and I wonder if that will increase as omicron spreads. Belgium currently has two cases known.

 

[Bromptonaut]

Kicking off in Belgium as a regional court rules that some current uses of covid certificates are illegal because they violate a fundamental human right to privacy. The government will appeal. https://www.dhnet.be/actu/belgique/...e-ticket-en-wallonie-61a6597d7b50a648b205e3ee

Don't rule out constitutional change to make it legal, because over 60% there now favor compulsory vaccination and I wonder if that will increase as omicron spreads. Belgium currently has two cases known.

I cannot see compulsory vaccination being compatible with ECHR rights.

 

[mjr]

I cannot see compulsory vaccination being compatible with ECHR rights.

Me neither. Is the Austrian government being taken to court yet?

But I think covid certificates could be OK and with that level of support for harsher measures, the Belgian constitution won't be an obstacle.

 

[Bromptonaut]

Me neither. Is the Austrian government being taken to court yet?

Based on what was said at the time I think Austria's constitution has a split of powers such that the regions will need to approve the mandate before it becomes effective in February. That's not a given.

 

[mjr]

Here's a new study which I'm not sure if I should post to the other place:
University of Glasgow - Schools - Adam Smith Business School - News - New research highlights a link between Brexit voting and COVID-19 death rates – https://www.gla.ac.uk/schools/business/news/headline_821384_en.html

 

[newfhouse]

Here's a new study which I'm not sure if I should post to the other place:
University of Glasgow - Schools - Adam Smith Business School - News - New research highlights a link between Brexit voting and COVID-19 death rates – https://www.gla.ac.uk/schools/business/news/headline_821384_en.html

The death rate correlation may be linked to age but that doesn’t seem to fit with the earlier and higher vaccine take up by the elderly nationally.

My speculation, fwiw, is that people that mistrust governments (of any colour) and feel disregarded by those in power are no more likely to trust them on medical matters than on economics.

 

[BoldonLad]

The death rate correlation may be linked to age but that doesn’t seem to fit with the earlier and higher vaccine take up by the elderly nationally.

My speculation, fwiw, is that people that mistrust governments (of any colour) and feel disregarded by those in power are no more likely to trust them on medical matters than on economics.

Sounds feasible (your speculation).

Phew! Pleased I voted remain

 

[Deleted member 28]

Phew! Pleased I voted remain

That's me fooked then!😆

 

[Unkraut]

My speculation, fwiw, is that people that mistrust governments (of any colour) and feel disregarded by those in power are no more likely to trust them on medical matters than on economics.

I think you are right.

The whole way the Brexit campaign was done was symptomatic of a deeper malaise within the UK. It set a precedent of getting your way by industrial scale lying. It is hardly any wonder then that so many won't believe the govt when the people who brought you Brexit who are now the govt have to deal with a pandemic that requires the public to trust the integrity of said govt if there is any chance of getting public to do the necessary to get the pandemic under some sort of control.

 

[mjr]

Today's Daily Star headline suggests labelling Starmer as "Captain Hindsight" may rebound on Johnson: “Captain Cock-up: It was everybody else, in the No 10 drawing room, with wine and nibbles”

 

[stowie]

An observation.... for what it is worth.

Taking the Underground a month or two ago, and you would be luck if over half the people you shared a carriage with had bothered with face coverings.

Taking the tube this week and the overwhelming majority were wearing masks. Maybe the odd one or two people were not.

Tube directives have not changed, but the government directives have.

It feels like people are taking things seriously again. This may be due to the government mask policies, or that people might be seeing relatives and colleagues getting diagnosed with COVID even after two vaccinations (I know I am).