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icowden
Legendary Member
Side note - those Tesla are really tough!
View: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-us-canada-64153839
250 foot fall onto rocks. Kids uninjured, adults only slightly injured!
View: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-us-canada-64153839
250 foot fall onto rocks. Kids uninjured, adults only slightly injured!
Mr Celine
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albion
Guru
https://insideevs.com/news/629170/tesla-fsd-beta-goes-crazy-on-snowy-roads/amp/
It also seems Tesla has also just being fined by S Korea for not being upfront about the 50% reduction in range when we get severe cold weather. Surely the display warns you of these 2 items automatically?
It also seems Tesla has also just being fined by S Korea for not being upfront about the 50% reduction in range when we get severe cold weather. Surely the display warns you of these 2 items automatically?
icowden
Legendary Member
It isn't possible to directly warn you of something that doesn't exist.
Yes, EV batteries are less efficient in cold weather and range can drop by up to 20% depending on how cold it is. Tesla's like all EVs can be fitted with a heat pump which helps combat this by about 10%. However in extreme cold (-15c or below), even the heat pump will struggle, and Tesla has had an issue with the pumps on the 3 and Y which are failing. They fixed the issue once, but it has recurred.
The figure of 50% is a 50% reduction based on how they are advertised online. Everyone knows that the range stated by manufacturers is as accurate as the MPG quoted on ICE cars.
What the car will do is adjust your predicted mileage and tell you how many miles you are doing per kwh. It will then point you to a charger when it is needed. Range changes hugely based on how and where you are driving, the heat / cold issue is just another variable.
AuroraSaab
Legendary Member
The police have charged the Tesla driver with attempted murder of his wife and children.
I did wonder about the crash and if the car had suddenly shot off the cliff edge at speed, and in a cartoon fashion simply dropped vertically landing on 4 wheels. That felt like the only way driving off a cliff could be survivable. Didn't expect it to have been deliberate though.
I did wonder about the crash and if the car had suddenly shot off the cliff edge at speed, and in a cartoon fashion simply dropped vertically landing on 4 wheels. That felt like the only way driving off a cliff could be survivable. Didn't expect it to have been deliberate though.
icowden
Legendary Member
I wasn't expecting that either. Lucky for them that he had bought such a tough car. Apparently it rolled a number of times going down the cliff.
Ian H
Guru
I'm not sure that that is a valid defence for inaccurate and/or misleading information.
icowden
Legendary Member
It depends. When you purchased your last ICE car was it explained to you that it would use more petrol / diesel if you go at higher speeds, and if it was a Diesel that it would use more fuel if only used on short runs, and for optimal fuel usage the revs should be within a certain range?
Ian H
Guru
That would be accurate information, so a different thing.
icowden
Legendary Member
Not really. Your manufacturer quotes that car x will do y miles per gallon. We all know that that is unachievable as it has been measured in a factory under optimal conditions. Range for an EV is exactly the same thing.
Ian H
Guru
In which case I fail to follow your argument.
AuroraSaab
Legendary Member
I wasn't expecting that either. Lucky for them that he had bought such a tough car. Apparently it rolled a number of times going down the cliff.
If it actually rolled a few times then it is amazing it's still in one piece. Driver has superficial injuries apparently. Hopefully the wife and children have only similar.
Also amazing that actor Jeremy Renner has survived being run over by his own snow plough - fell under it as he tried to stop it rolling. God knows what those things weigh. 2 metal pins in legs and chest injuries but doing OK.
