Twitter under Musk....
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stowie
Active Member
Well herein lies the problem. The UK (as with most countries) has had laws banning certain stuff (or at least making the state able to prosecute it) for a long, long time.
Those outraged at people being locked up for their speech after the riots would like to believe both that this is a new boot of the state coming down on their necks and that they are advocating for free speech for all. Neither is true. I doubt many were manning the barricades when - for example - Anjem Choudary was convicted for advocating for a proscribed organisation and cheering on terrorist atrocities in 2016. In the Judges own words, Choudary had crossed the line between expression of views and a criminal act.
The particularly nasty stuff that had been posted by those now convicted has been swilling around the internet for a good long time. Those convicted expected to be able to do it again. Unfortunately for them, their postings were part of riots which tried to enact some of the things advocated in posts such as killing people in their hotels. So the state moved from being disinterested to prosecuting, amid outrage which really stemmed from the fact they had got away with it before and expected to do so again.
There are real free-speech advocates but their vision can become pretty dark quite quickly. Is nothing off the table in law when it comes to speech? In practice liberal states like the UK need to tread a line between freedom of expression and incitement to hatred, violence, exploitation and so on. I don't doubt they get this wrong at times. But we are not in a Russia situation where any dissent or criticism of the government is suppressed. Those pretending we are in this situation, or even on the road to a Russia type government, are either lacking in critical thinking or doing so for their own purposes.
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albion
Guest
I was just reading up in the Irish worker who won $600,000 compensation when essentially sacked for not agreeing to Musks new terms of 'hard employment '. Ireland has fair employment protection.
Yet it seems many a job in the US is 'at will' meaning people can be dumped out of a job for almost any old reason.
It all adds to the 100s of thousands more on the streets and in prison over there.
Yet it seems many a job in the US is 'at will' meaning people can be dumped out of a job for almost any old reason.
It all adds to the 100s of thousands more on the streets and in prison over there.
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albion
Guest
'Fascists'
https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy...ds-to-proposed-fines-for-disinformation-on-x/
Twitter failed go make money more than partly because of the monitoring costs.
X under Musk seems to be ever descending.
https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy...ds-to-proposed-fines-for-disinformation-on-x/
Twitter failed go make money more than partly because of the monitoring costs.
X under Musk seems to be ever descending.
AuroraSaab
Squire
US employment terms are notoriously poor. Few paid holiday days and practically no maternity leave are the norm. As is working into your 70's because pension provision is limited. It's a very harsh job market for the less well educated and unskilled.
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albion
Guest
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c756d56d2dro.amp
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He was not invited due to his social media posts during last month’s riots, the BBC understands.
"I don’t think anyone should go to the UK when they’re releasing convicted pedophiles in order to imprison people for social media posts," Mr Musk claimed on X.
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Doubling down is what got him Twitter. Outside the Maga-sphere it must cost him big.
In a saner comment he mentioned Brexit stopped him investing in the UK.
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He was not invited due to his social media posts during last month’s riots, the BBC understands.
"I don’t think anyone should go to the UK when they’re releasing convicted pedophiles in order to imprison people for social media posts," Mr Musk claimed on X.
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Doubling down is what got him Twitter. Outside the Maga-sphere it must cost him big.
In a saner comment he mentioned Brexit stopped him investing in the UK.
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winjim
Welcome yourself into the new modern crisis
Interesting interactions on the free speech platform yesterday as I made exactly the same joke there as I did here about Starmer and Israel, namely 'what's the word for...?' Got a few replies but the only ones which showed up in my mentions were the ones not actually using that word. So it looks as if there's some sort of suppression going on.
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albion
Guest
https://www.forbes.com/sites/digita...ng-predicted-to-trigger-a-bitcoin-price-boom/
Grifting rather than singing a Syd Barrett ditty. Bitcoin itself could bankrupt the world economy, it having far too little regulation.
Grifting rather than singing a Syd Barrett ditty. Bitcoin itself could bankrupt the world economy, it having far too little regulation.
mjr
Active Member
Basically, anyone still using Musk's twix is either a nazi, happy to be with nazis, or reporting on nazis, aren't they?
It's interesting to see who's at least happy to be in a nazi bar these days, when they unmask themselves by sharing links on forums like this without comment.
AuroraSaab
Squire
Pre Musk it wouldn't ban the accounts of men with MAP in their profile and women were banned for saying men couldn't be women. A lot of the people complaining now were quite happy with that version of Twitter. People are always happier when social media is an echo chamber.
Rusty Nails
Country Member
That depends on who's doing the shouting.
Social media is a mixture of echo chambers and people never think they are in one, it's always those over there.
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albion
Guest
Muchmof the Facebook never made turned a profit was the costs associated with monitoring/policing it.
Brazil decared the Musk strategy nuts.
Brazil decared the Musk strategy nuts.
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albion
Guest
What happened to 'free speech'?
https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2024/10/11/media/trump-elon-musk-x-hack-materials
Not a great surprise that right wing fraud is allowed but none right wing truth is not.
'Musk recently appeared alongside Trump at a rally in Pennsylvania and told conspiracy theorist Tucker Carlson this week that he has been “trashing Kamala [Harris] nonstop,” and that if Trump loses the election, “I’m f–ked.” '
https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2024/10/11/media/trump-elon-musk-x-hack-materials
Not a great surprise that right wing fraud is allowed but none right wing truth is not.
'Musk recently appeared alongside Trump at a rally in Pennsylvania and told conspiracy theorist Tucker Carlson this week that he has been “trashing Kamala [Harris] nonstop,” and that if Trump loses the election, “I’m f–ked.” '
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ebikeerwidnes
Senior Member
I do get the impression that Musk is all for total freedom of speech not matter who gets hurt
As long as it follows his beliefs - he is very keen of cracking down on speech that he doesn;t agree with
I think he is getting closer and closer to trump - in terms of how he thinks especially about himself
IMO anyway
