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mudsticks

Squire
Violence would never be my preferred solution, in case you are wondering.

However as a mild mannered 50 something year old, I did have the distinction of being barred from my local pub for becoming involved in a heated argument with an acquaintance (a school teacher as it happens) about allowing HongKong Chinese entry to the UK. For the record, I was in favour of allowing entry, also, I did not resort to the "final deterrent:

Online threats of violence and actual violence are rather different, until that is Microsoft/Intel/Apple add a fist to their products.

I'm sure you've seen this before, but here you are..
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Indeed I have, many times but it's worth a share here, as some others may not have .

True enough, but there can definitely be a sinister element to it e.g. stalking etc etc
And actual violence carried out.

Which in turn leads to fear of violence, which in turn leads to 'silencing'

A lot of people of less robust disposition won't even join in a conversation for fear of being attacked, dismissed, diminished, silenced or 'tone policed'.

Eg - your personifying me as 'headmistress' might have led some women to think
'Oh no, am I coming across as 'shrill, bossy, opinionated, or in some way 'unacceptable'..

Of course in an ideal world we wouldn't care, or better still not do that kind of stuff.

The younger generation are far more wise to that kind of thing, and will call it out for what it is. .


indeed, I am not condoning it (violence) either online or real world. Just pointing out, the to me rather obvious) that people may curb their tongue, if a punch in the face is a REAL possibility, whereas, online, as we all know, there is no limit to the average keyboard warriors bravery.
You're right, people will say all kinds of horrible things to others online, where they'd never say it in public .

A bit cowardly isn't it.??

Fwiw , I get up in public , in rooms full of people and say these same things in the 'real world' 😁

No fisticuffs have been required as of yet ;)
 

BoldonLad

Old man on a bike. Not a member of a clique.
Location
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But you can choose who you interact with. I use it to keep in touch with distant friends & acquaintances amongst other things.

Agreed, I use Social Media and Internet for similar reasons. But, in a forum, such as this, there is no equivalent to the (polite), “is this seat taken?, would you mind if I joined you and your conversation”, which would occur in a “real” world social setting (at least in my social circle). Not saying this is wrong, or bad, it is just different. I have no problem with “different”.
 

mudsticks

Squire
Again sums this place up nicely and some (not all) of your contributions to it....
For the avoidance of doubt, 'the likes of yourself' ..

Is 'yourself' and anyone else who comes up with such fantastical ideas , as me needing to be rescued .

The truly silenced are not people like yourself, they are those from whom we never or rarely hear.

Those far more vulnerable.

I'm very aware of my privilege as an educated white woman, beholden to no one for my security, or well being, and at minimal risk of attack.

Others are not so 'lucky' their voices are heard far more rarely, if ever.

They are often self cancelled way before they do anything so risky as getting a social media account.
 

icowden

Squire
And Twitter only came with those rules after they decided they need to go on their moral high horse and ''punish'' Trump, after trump lost the elections and he threatened to c;lampdown on the power of social media and their left wing bias.(i'm qouting his words on left wing bias, just to make clear i don't neccasarly agree with it) edit addition Trump announced crackdown was before the elections he just never really done it, only said he was considering it

That would be the ban in 2021 you are referring to which was applied under the Glorification of Violence rules established in March 2019? Previously to 2019 twitter had allowed Trump to break the rules of twitter on multiple occasions under their World Leaders on Twitter approach. However again, in response to the increasing bad behaviour of the orange one, they again clarified in 2019 that they would enforce rules under certain scenarios by hiding tweets.

The decision to ban Trump entirely came *after* he ceased to be a world leader, and after Twitter came under pressure to do something about his increasingly demented tweets and calls to violence, and act in the public interest.
 

mudsticks

Squire
Where did I use the the term "needing"? you are using words I didn't write... ^_^
You implied from your post that @newfhouse was offering or attempting to rescue me .

(And you implied also that he had an ulterior motive .
I'm fairly sure he wasn't particularly bothered, by that, but in other circs someone might find that inference offensive.)

That would suggest that I might 'need' it

Not everything has to be said explicitly to be implied after all , does it ;)
 

mudsticks

Squire
But not that you needed rescuing

Well whichever, but I don't think @newfhouse was doing that either .

You're the one who had to bring my gender or an ulterior motive into it.

With implications of 'white knighting' where there was none visible .

If you want online discourse to be conducted in a more civil and trustworthy manner, done in good faith even

Perhaps look to your own posting first amigo
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That would be the ban in 2021 you are referring to which was applied under the Glorification of Violence rules established in March 2019? Previously to 2019 twitter had allowed Trump to break the rules of twitter on multiple occasions under their World Leaders on Twitter approach. However again, in response to the increasing bad behaviour of the orange one, they again clarified in 2019 that they would enforce rules under certain scenarios by hiding tweets.
A silly step, you either enforce something or you don't but they started earlier with adding that something trump said might be fake news, they didn't do that to Obama, Bush or others who ae just as guilty of spreading false information. Or those democrats cheering on Antifa

The decision to ban Trump entirely came *after* he ceased to be a world leader, and after Twitter came under pressure to do something about his increasingly demented tweets and calls to violence, and act in the public interest.
Technically he never called for violence, except if you take out only one part of what he said put it in a tweet and keep on repeating that, like all the leftish and rightish war mongers did. it would be easy to show that wheren't it for the fact those tweets are unavailable as the account is blocked.

And as per the inquiry into this that didn;'t get to much attention, the national guard was on standby but standing back because of some leftish politicians claiming Trump would use the ''Martial law'' and the precedence of the National guard would be seen as a attempted coup by Trump.

So the capital storming was more a result of multiple things come together both from the populist left and the populist right then it was because of Trumps speech, it surely didn't help either but blaming it all on Trump is be-ing blind for the real issues at stake and will surely lead to a repeat in a slightly different setting in the future.
 

FishFright

Well-Known Member
indeed, I am not condoning it (violence) either online or real world. Just pointing out, the to me rather obvious) that people may curb their tongue, if a punch in the face is a REAL possibility, whereas, online, as we all know, there is no limit to the average keyboard warriors bravery.

Oooh he's so butch ! Its those spurious capital letters that do it .
 
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