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theclaud

theclaud

Reading around the chip
As of June 3, 2023, the motive for the shooting remains unclear. Hale's surviving writings, including diaries and a planning document initially called a "manifesto", were described by police as "rambling" and did not reference any specific political or social issues.[33]
 
Bazzer

Bazzer

Well-Known Member
Video has now emerged of Roger Stone who was convicted for his actions during the Mueller investigation, but subsequently pardoned by Trump, working to overturn the 2020 election, even before the results were called.


Trump is also burning through his political action committee's funds, with $40m spent in legal fees in the first half of 2023 and his PAC having to ask for the return of $60m provided to another Trump supporting PAC.
 
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ebikeerwidnes

Senior Member
icowden said:
Honestly, I'm just waiting for him to post something on Truth Social that causes him to spend some time in Jail. He can't help but incriminate himself and ignore legal advice.
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He does seem to display far more apparent restraint that you would expect.
Looking at him I would have expected him to say (either verbally or on some media) that the judge etc should be killed
Instead he sort of suggest it without making it absolutely clear
Almost as if he is cleverer than he seems - or possibly just very cunning
 
dutchguylivingintheuk

dutchguylivingintheuk

Über Member
Rusty Nails said:
Is it incompatible to be nasty and clever?
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Epstein, to a certain extent Hitler, Putin and a few more in that list are/where sadly clever but certainly also nasty. But Trump and clever is not really the good word, clearly he is not stupid, but clever is giving him a lot more credit then he is due. I mean if he would be clever he would have called his what was it Mar-la-go house to tell them to ''make the secret documents dissapear'' he would instead found a way off delivering that message more covert. (to give an example)
He is very good in playing poeple, but potential voters as the one in the republican party backing him.
 
BoldonLad

BoldonLad

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Rusty Nails said:
Is it incompatible to be nasty and clever?
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No, but, it is dangerous (for other people)
 
icowden

icowden

Legendary Member
Rusty Nails said:
Is it incompatible to be nasty and clever?
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No, but Trump has never demonstrated any cleverness. Every business venture he has gone into has lost money. The reason is isn't broke is that he is a useful idiot, prepared to take anyone's cash, and that if you start with a *lot* of money, everyone around you will try to preserve that cash for their own benefit.
 
Ian H

Ian H

Legendary Member
icowden said:
No, but Trump has never demonstrated any cleverness. Every business venture he has gone into has lost money. The reason is isn't broke is that he is a useful idiot, prepared to take anyone's cash, and that if you start with a *lot* of money, everyone around you will try to preserve that cash for their own benefit.
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He was clever enough to be elected as leader of the 'free world'.
 
icowden

icowden

Legendary Member
Ian H said:
He was clever enough to be elected as leader of the 'free world'.
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No - he was egotistical enough. A clever man would have realised that being elected President would shove all his crimes and misdeeds into the spotlight and invite investigations into his business practices which could bring him down, bankrupt him, destroy his "reputation" and end up with a lengthy jail term.
 
Ian H

Ian H

Legendary Member
icowden said:
No - he was egotistical enough. A clever man would have realised that being elected President would shove all his crimes and misdeeds into the spotlight and invite investigations into his business practices which could bring him down, bankrupt him, destroy his "reputation" and end up with a lengthy jail term.
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He didn't get there by being stupid. Clever is not the same as wise or knowledgeable.
 
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