winjim
Welcome yourself into the new modern crisis
Well quite. He's using a nuclear deterrent against conventional warfare.
War with Russia
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It's how Israel get away with murder innit ?
FishFright
Well-Known Member
Most of them don't even know what the war is about , but hey that won't stop them.
Sadly most seem to be hell bent on this escalating it to some huge crusade to put Putin ' in his place'.
Fab Foodie
Guru
What's your solution?
fozy tornip
At the controls of my private jet.
Tricky.
Were Gal Gadot and some celebrity chums to release a cover of Lennon's "Give Peace a Chance", would that do it?
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Milzy
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NATO won’t help much because we don’t want to start WW3. Trouble is when Ukraine falls another invasion will take place. It’s already started. It would be a good idea to test these Euro Typhoons out properly & start by eliminating that convoy. Putin must be stopped at all costs.
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Got to be worth a try ?
To be honest I haven't a clue,but pouring even more weapons and military force into Ukraine doesn't feel like it's going to end well.Try anything to negotiate and end this sh!t.
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Milzy
Well-Known Member
China has its own self interests. They should stop been up Putins jacksy & pressure him to pull out.
fozy tornip
At the controls of my private jet.
You back on the niche porn?
StuAff
Member
Xi has multiple concerns of his own. Western intervention in the Ukraine does not augur well for the desired reunification with/occupation of Taiwan- the complicated international status of that 'rebel province' notwithstanding. Any and all ructions in Russia and the client republics like Kazakhstan could intensify problems with those troublesome ethnic minorities like the Uighurs. Relations with Putin are currently pretty good, but nor does China wish to upset the West too much. And China, I imagine, much prefers being the senior partner in the relationship and would prefer it stayed that way. It's going to be very awkward…
matticus
Guru
Yup. If Putin isn't a deranged monster - and I am still clinging to this hope - but is in fact a very calculating but ruthless power-hungry alpha male, then he won't want nuclear war, but will do whatever bullying he calculates will give him most of the things he wants.
I also believe that if NATO calls his bluff, he won't start throwing nukes onto foreign soil.[the slightly more likely option is to use the teeny tiny ones on some corner of Ukraine, just to show everyone his muscles. That would be vvv bad of course, but we can cross that bridge when we get to it ... ]
Fab Foodie
Guru
I think the world's in enough pain already....
icowden
Legendary Member
Saw this today. What a stroke of luck...
View: https://twitter.com/iHarbonaut/status/1498656079391113217?s=20&t=K8EIphu0zMVUh6XAVKpKeg
And in other news, we have opened our arms to the Ukrainian refugees. All they have to do is get sponsored to come here by big business.
"Yes - I'm a BP-ugee, you?"
"Lidl-ugee..."
View: https://twitter.com/iHarbonaut/status/1498656079391113217?s=20&t=K8EIphu0zMVUh6XAVKpKeg
And in other news, we have opened our arms to the Ukrainian refugees. All they have to do is get sponsored to come here by big business.
"Yes - I'm a BP-ugee, you?"
"Lidl-ugee..."
mudsticks
Squire
https://theswordandthesandwich.substack.com/p/the-battle-of-kyiv
'How much memory does a city need? How many sacred dead, how many martyrs with undying deeds, how much bravery, how much blood? Suffering hollows out a person, hollows out a people, leaves room for little more than suffering.
The troops are gathering around Kyiv again, encircling again, with lethal intent, seeking to erase all that has happened in this twenty-first century, turn back the clock and split the atom all over again. For all the hoopla and the bloodlust and the money and the baying of the pan-Western war machine—which is tiresome and frightening and profitable and never satisfied—there are people dying in Kyiv, people in their apartments, people throwing Molotov cocktails at tanks, people demining bridges with bare hands, people that shouldn’t be dying this way. They’re dying in Odessa and Mariupol and Vasylkiv, dying in Vynnitsia, in Chernihiv, in Luhansk, dying in places that have seen enough violent death to soak the earth through a hundred times over. And they are fighting, as their parents did, and their grandparents, all for a tyrant’s whim.'
'How much memory does a city need? How many sacred dead, how many martyrs with undying deeds, how much bravery, how much blood? Suffering hollows out a person, hollows out a people, leaves room for little more than suffering.
The troops are gathering around Kyiv again, encircling again, with lethal intent, seeking to erase all that has happened in this twenty-first century, turn back the clock and split the atom all over again. For all the hoopla and the bloodlust and the money and the baying of the pan-Western war machine—which is tiresome and frightening and profitable and never satisfied—there are people dying in Kyiv, people in their apartments, people throwing Molotov cocktails at tanks, people demining bridges with bare hands, people that shouldn’t be dying this way. They’re dying in Odessa and Mariupol and Vasylkiv, dying in Vynnitsia, in Chernihiv, in Luhansk, dying in places that have seen enough violent death to soak the earth through a hundred times over. And they are fighting, as their parents did, and their grandparents, all for a tyrant’s whim.'
