War with Russia

[Johnno260]

NATO won’t help much because we don’t want to start WW3. Trouble is when Ukraine falls another invasion will take place. It’s already started. It would be a good idea to test these Euro Typhoons out properly & start by eliminating that convoy. Putin must be stopped at all costs.

We don't have a great deal of Typhoons and I would argue the Lightening II is a better strike fighter.

To be honest the anti armour weaponry supplied seems to be doing it's job, I don't want to say a good job as every time one of those vehicles are hit there are people inside, people I would think have been lied to as why they're there.

 

[Deleted member 49]

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I'll raise you....

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[FishFright]

What's your solution?

Leave them to talk and sort it out , which they are doing. In the meantime use sanctions and stop all the macho posturing,

Are your boots on the ground yet or are you being brave from a great distance and hoping that other people go die on your behalf ?

 

[newfhouse]

In the meantime use sanctions

Steady on, we need to allow time for them to move their money to places of safety first. Won't somebody think of the estate agents?

 

[BoldonLad]

Saw this today. What a stroke of luck...


View: https://twitter.com/iHarbonaut/status/1498656079391113217?s=20&t=K8EIphu0zMVUh6XAVKpKeg


And in other news, we have opened our arms to the Ukrainian refugees. All they have to do is get sponsored to come here by big business.
"Yes - I'm a BP-ugee, you?"
"Lidl-ugee..."

Even luckier when he buys them back, for a fraction of the original price, but, I am sure his will not be the only nose in the trough.

 

[Rusty Nails]

To be honest I haven't a clue,but pouring even more weapons and military force into Ukraine doesn't feel like it's going to end well.Try anything to negotiate and end this sh!t.

The last sentence is obviously true, and hopefully China has more influence on Russia and may be able to help.
Does your first sentence apply just to Ukraine and its supporters or does it apply to the Russians as well, and if so how do you stop the Russians continuing to pour weapons and military force into Ukraine and remove those already there. There is a huge imbalance in weapons/force already in this conflict and if it doesn't apply to both sides rewards the aggressor.

 

[Milzy]

We don't have a great deal of Typhoons and I would argue the Lightening II is a better strike fighter.

To be honest the anti armour weaponry supplied seems to be doing it's job, I don't want to say a good job as every time one of those vehicles are hit there are people inside, people I would think have been lied to as why they're there.

I agree, Euro fighters can distract their air defences while F35’s line up air to ground.
However we can’t have such escalation so if the Ukrainians could use a few drones it keeps us out of it.

 

[dutchguylivingintheuk]

The last sentence is obviously true, and hopefully China has more influence on Russia and may be able to help.
Does your first sentence apply just to Ukraine and its supporters or does it apply to the Russians as well, and if so how do you stop the Russians continuing to pour weapons and military force into Ukraine and remove those already there. There is a huge imbalance in weapons/force already in this conflict and if it doesn't apply to both sides rewards the aggressor.

A peace negotiations won't help, Russia thinks they can do everything threatening with nuclear War, even if they agree to peace now,(but they won't unless ridiculous demands are met) the next war will be already planned.
I now think @Fab Foodie was correct earlier. We need to defeat them, not by sending weapons but by showing them we are (much) stronger. Yes that will mean ww3 but the alternative is waiting from them to grow stronger after invading whatevery is next after Ukraine. At current rate Ukraine will not last a other week. Don't get why they want to install a puppet goverment, there is nothing left of the country anyway.

 

[dutchguylivingintheuk]

I agree, Euro fighters can distract their air defences while F35’s line up air to ground.
However we can’t have such escalation so if the Ukrainians could use a few drones it keeps us out of it.

i think the best strategy would start from the sea, by firstly or better said simultanisyly disabling russian submarines, boats etc. and they use the bigger boats to launch tomahawks at their air defences etc. Euro fighter are more agile although the f35 was made to replace both f16 and strategic bombers it never materialized in the wat they wanted too that's why the us already has an succesor to it in it's final testing phase

 

[icowden]

Even luckier when he buys them back, for a fraction of the original price, but, I am sure his will not be the only nose in the trough.

Apparently people are trying to refer him for an investigation into insider trading...

 

[Rusty Nails]

i think the best strategy would start from the sea, by firstly or better said simultanisyly disabling russian submarines, boats etc. and they use the bigger boats to launch tomahawks at their air defences etc. Euro fighter are more agile although the f35 was made to replace both f16 and strategic bombers it never materialized in the wat they wanted too that's why the us already has an succesor to it in it's final testing phase

A peace negotiations won't help, Russia thinks they can do everything threatening with nuclear War, even if they agree to peace now,(but they won't unless ridiculous demands are met) the next war will be already planned.
I now think @Fab Foodie was correct earlier. We need to defeat them, not by sending weapons but by showing them we are (much) stronger. Yes that will mean ww3 but the alternative is waiting from them to grow stronger after invading whatevery is next after Ukraine. At current rate Ukraine will not last a other week. Don't get why they want to install a puppet goverment, there is nothing left of the country anyway.

Simple!

What can possibly go wrong?

 

[dutchguylivingintheuk]

Simple!

What can possibly go wrong?

Everything considering the lunatic has nuclear weapons, it will also not be a war without/with few victims on nato/western side like Libya was but like i said what is the alternative? do you really believe them to stop after Ukraine Moldavia and all the other former Sovjet union states? I think youre wrong, i think if you stretech this battle over a xx amount of years it might not be the west winning it.

 

[Johnno260]

Everything considering the lunatic has nuclear weapons, it will also not be a war without/with few victims on nato/western side like Libya was but like i said what is the alternative? do you really believe them to stop after Ukraine Moldavia and all the other former Sovjet union states? I think youre wrong, i think if you stretech this battle over a xx amount of years it might not be the west winning it.

Moldova has a break away state that has ties to Russia already called Transnistria, so he can basically repeat the same nonsense there.

 

[mjr]

We don't have a great deal of Typhoons and I would argue the Lightening II is a better strike fighter.

Lots of Lightnings in the air over East Anglia today. There's nothing about it on their social media like normal increased training flights.

 

[FishFright]

A peace negotiations won't help, Russia thinks they can do everything threatening with nuclear War, even if they agree to peace now,(but they won't unless ridiculous demands are met) the next war will be already planned.
I now think @Fab Foodie was correct earlier. We need to defeat them, not by sending weapons but by showing them we are (much) stronger. Yes that will mean ww3 but the alternative is waiting from them to grow stronger after invading whatevery is next after Ukraine. At current rate Ukraine will not last a other week. Don't get why they want to install a puppet goverment, there is nothing left of the country anyway.

Off you go then , or are you all for spilling other peoples blood but not your own ?