War with Russia

[Rusty Nails]

Not physically cornered, politically cornered, and thus dangerous.

You are just repeating what Matticus said In his second sentence.

If Russia is politically cornered it has now cornered itself because of it’s choice of violence rather than continued talking.

It is ironic that, at a time when, IMO, NATO, was facing its own existential challenges with the potential for reduced US support and no real likelihood that Ukraine would join, Russia’s actions have probably strengthened support for NATO and the possibility of more of Russia‘s neighbours wanting to join.

Looking back, there have been mistakes on both sides in stoking up the tensions over Ukraine, particularly since 2014, but none of that gets close to justifying what Russia has done.

 

[Ian H]

You are just repeating what Matticus said In his second sentence.

If Russia is politically cornered it has now cornered itself because of it’s choice of violence rather than continued talking.

It is ironic that, at a time when, IMO, NATO, was facing its own existential challenges with the potential for reduced US support and no real likelihood that Ukraine would join, Russia’s actions have probably strengthened support for NATO and the possibility of more of Russia‘s neighbours wanting to join.

Looking back, there have been mistakes on both sides in stoking up the tensions over Ukraine, particularly since 2014, but none of that gets close to justifying what Russia has done.

Not Russia, Putin. Of course Russia will survive. What Putin is concerned with is Putin's political survival. If he's seen to fail, he might have trouble holding on to power. That makes him dangerous.

 

[qigong chimp]

This is good:

https://www.theguardian.com/comment...ern-values-enthroned-monster-ukrainians-putin

 

[matticus]

That makes him dangerous.

He seemed pretty dangerous to me when he sent tanks marauding towards Kyev.
I'm not sure there's much value in hand-wringing(sp??) over how we might upset the poor chap further.

 

[Ian H]

He seemed pretty dangerous to me when he sent tanks marauding towards Kyev.
I'm not sure there's much value in hand-wringing(sp??) over how we might upset the poor chap further.

I'm sure there isn't. Your point?

 

[dutchguylivingintheuk]

Even China is done with Russia, they openly support Ukraine now.

 

[matticus]

I'm sure there isn't. Your point?

I think I made it clearly enough with my map post.
What is YOUR point in repeatedly saying that Putin is cornered and dangerous?

 

[AndyRM]

Even China is done with Russia, they openly support Ukraine now.

Eh?! Where have you seen that?

 

[Milzy]

Zelensky is one of 2 Jewish leaders, his family grandparents suffered during the holocaust as well.

Again this isn’t hard to find, but then again you’re obviously looking for confirmation bias and not facts.

The Azov group is far right, but we have far right nutters in the U.K. as well, just look at the EDL pratts and Tommy Robinson and his flying monkey goon squad.

It still doesn’t justify an illegal invasion and wholesale shelling of civilians and hospitals.

https://news.sky.com/story/ukraine-...bed-mariupol-hospital-dies-with-baby-12565815


View: https://mobile.twitter.com/mfa_ukraine/status/1504056536250957833/photo/1


Yea totally justified.

Oh and the Bidens? Really next you will tell me Trump, Putin and Xi Ping are all working to rid the world of the cabal!

I never said it was justified. I want Russia to pull out. I’m just stating it’s not all black & white & the West are just as corrupt as the East.
It’s terrible what’s been allowed to go on.

 

[Milzy]

Zelensky is one of 2 Jewish leaders, his family grandparents suffered during the holocaust as well.

Again this isn’t hard to find, but then again you’re obviously looking for confirmation bias and not facts.

The Azov group is far right, but we have far right nutters in the U.K. as well, just look at the EDL pratts and Tommy Robinson and his flying monkey goon squad.

It still doesn’t justify an illegal invasion and wholesale shelling of civilians and hospitals.

https://news.sky.com/story/ukraine-...bed-mariupol-hospital-dies-with-baby-12565815


View: https://mobile.twitter.com/mfa_ukraine/status/1504056536250957833/photo/1


Yea totally justified.

Oh and the Bidens? Really next you will tell me Trump, Putin and Xi Ping are all working to rid the world of the cabal!

George soros is Jewish and that didn’t stop him selling out his own people.

 

[Rusty Nails]

Not Russia, Putin. Of course Russia will survive. What Putin is concerned with is Putin's political survival. If he's seen to fail, he might have trouble holding on to power. That makes him dangerous.

The Russian system enables and empowers Putin and seemingly hands over all responsibility for its actions to him.

The amorphous US or the West is criticised for provoking this invasion yet the criticism of the violence centres on Putin as if the nation’s political system has nothing to do with it

Is he dangerous or is Russia dangerous? Chicken or egg?

 

[Rusty Nails]

Eh?! Where have you seen that?

A Russian told him on Facebook.

 

[dutchguylivingintheuk]

Eh?! Where have you seen that?

Here:
https://polishnews.co.uk/sergey-lav...d-over-novosibirsk-reports-of-the-daily-bild/
and(same story reported in many other news outlets)

 

[Rusty Nails]

Here:
https://polishnews.co.uk/sergey-lav...d-over-novosibirsk-reports-of-the-daily-bild/
and(same story reported in many other news outlets)

Sorry, I got you confused with Milzy in my earlier response.

That doesn't exactly read as China being "done with Russia" and "openly supporting" Ukraine, helpful as that would be.

 

[Johnno260]

George soros is Jewish and that didn’t stop him selling out his own people.

So as Soros is bad in your eyes? so is Zelensky? guilt by association? in this case you imply as they're Jewish? nice.... says more about you than me, you really need to lay off those conspiracy websites.

Seems philanthropy makes you hated these days...