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How is that a contradiction?
War with Russia
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RecordAceFromNew
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Is it not a contradiction, that your "madman" also "know exactly what they are doing and know exactly what goals they aim to achieve", and "is playing the long game."?
RecordAceFromNew
Member
I am probably old fashioned, but for a country's senior politician, in this case someone apparently touted as and aspiring to being the next PM of UK, associating Russia with the Nazis, and the mafia, is to me a very sad state of affair indeed.
One might personally think individual acts of a regime disagreeable (and which regime had not acted disagreeably?), and one can reasonably agree with statements of facts in news pointing such out. But that is rather different to critiquing an aspring/potential PM's public statement, which is what you and I are doing, aren't we?
Nobody is perfect, but a useful thought experiment might be, would Angela Merkel have written that if she were in Tugendhat's shoes, and if not why not?
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No, and im still none the wiser...
Rusty Nails
Country Member
The USSR was not Russia. The countries controlled by Russia decided they wanted independence. Putin still longs for those days.
What they would theoretically "bless" Russia with is neither here nor there, Russia feels the same about them. There have not been and afaik are not planned invasions/threats to Russian territory.
This is a thread about Russia not about China, which is just a deflection and, I believe, the subject of another thread
newfhouse
pleb
Is ‘gas‘ the correct answer to the second part?
mudsticks
Squire
Is it just me being cynical , but did Jonson seem in an almighty hurry to cut short his 'Tour of the North' in order that he attend a cosy cobra meeting about the Ukraine.,??
In the past he doesn't seem to have been quite so keen to change his schedule, to footle about with urgent matters over which he might even have had some useful influence .
Covid response , and Afhan evacuations, spring to mind...
It's almost as if he didn't want to have to face a bunch of cross northerners..
Who had probs preemptively fitted child locks to all fridges within reach..
Fab Foodie
Guru
Putin's getting just what he wants. Prominance on the world stage, world leaders as his puppets. Good for domestic consumption.
He'll milk it 'till it turns into cream.
An invasion is a very high risk strategy, domestically speaking.
The west needs to grow a pair otherwise this will run and run....
Support for Putin is on the wane in mother Russia and he knows it....
He'll milk it 'till it turns into cream.
An invasion is a very high risk strategy, domestically speaking.
The west needs to grow a pair otherwise this will run and run....
Support for Putin is on the wane in mother Russia and he knows it....
FishFright
Well-Known Member
What do you think the West should actually do ? Once they've grown a pair of course.
Fab Foodie
Guru
Militarily prepare to stand up and be counted.
Rapidly deploy in large numbers within striking distance then don't pander to him. He cannot be allowed to think he can threaten or invade the likes of Ukraine because he wants to. Sanctions are all well and good, but it's water of a ducks back once he's in Kiyv....
dutchguylivingintheuk
Über Member
True but the quote come from a longer article that likens Russia to the Nazis' like @RecordAceFromNew showed the outtakes from. I agree with him that that is the issue, because it is not correct, calling the Nazis's something like that completly ignores the fact making fun of Jews, talking about Jews in a negative way was common before the second world war. Yes it took an wicked regime like the Nazi's but the groundwork was laid long before it.
Russia has a wicked leader who in turns is not afraid to kill or disaable his opposition but does not have the same wicked agenda as the Nazi's had, ik think he is more compareable to Erdogan, but think they are bigger than anything bot want to restore their country to how it used to be.(Putin want to restore the sovjet union, Erdogan the ottoman empire.
Ian H
Legendary Member
Another from Michael Rosen's occasional spoof 'Boris texts'.
"Carrie, The nation is witnessing the full power of my diplomatic and martial skills. Single-handed, I have slain the Bear and ploughed his bloody entrails into the snow. With his pelt under my belt, I will win the hearts of the British people once again.
Gladioli bravado
Boris"
https://twitter.com/MichaelRos.../status/1493726228876079108
"Carrie, The nation is witnessing the full power of my diplomatic and martial skills. Single-handed, I have slain the Bear and ploughed his bloody entrails into the snow. With his pelt under my belt, I will win the hearts of the British people once again.
Gladioli bravado
Boris"
https://twitter.com/MichaelRos.../status/1493726228876079108
Fab Foodie
Guru
Seems somebody has been reading my posts....
Nato considering new battlegroups to bolster eastern flank
Daniel Boffey
Nato’s secretary general, Jens Stoltenberg, is holding a press conference at the military alliance’s headquarters following talks with defence ministers.
He has told reporters that Nato is considering further battle groups to complement the four in Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania and Poland, led by the UK, Canada, Germany and the US.
Stoltenberg said the French government had offered to lead a battlegroup in Romania, adding:
The development risks antagonising Moscow but it will also be seen as a warning to the Kremlin that the aggression of recent months will be rewarded with a further Nato presence in central and eastern Europe.
