Yet more Tory sleaze….

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deptfordmarmoset

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Zero shame, as they know their supporters have extremely selective, or else no memory whatsoever
I just read a Guardian article about Roundhay, that posh part of Leeds, where Liz Truss went to school. This quote tells more about Lies and Trust than it does about Liz Truss. Totally delusional way of (not) thinking.

Jane Lusardi, a retired secretary who went to Roundhay school back when it was a girls’ grammar.​
“I’ve been reading [Truss’s] comments in the local media about pupils being let down and people thought she was being very unfair. It’s not true that it’s a deprived area,” she said.​
“She got a good enough education at Roundhay to go to Oxford. I don’t agree with her comments at all.”​
As a lifelong Tory voter, Lusardi has been following the contest very closely and still backs Truss. “I find Liz Truss more believable. I’m not biased towards women but I think women are more honest,” she said.​
 

winjim

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I just read a Guardian article about Roundhay, that posh part of Leeds, where Liz Truss went to school. This quote tells more about Lies and Trust than it does about Liz Truss. Totally delusional way of (not) thinking.

Jane Lusardi, a retired secretary who went to Roundhay school back when it was a girls’ grammar.​
“I’ve been reading [Truss’s] comments in the local media about pupils being let down and people thought she was being very unfair. It’s not true that it’s a deprived area,” she said.​
“She got a good enough education at Roundhay to go to Oxford. I don’t agree with her comments at all.”​
As a lifelong Tory voter, Lusardi has been following the contest very closely and still backs Truss. “I find Liz Truss more believable. I’m not biased towards women but I think women are more honest,” she said.​

Those quotes make you wonder if maybe the school didn't do a very good job of educating its pupils after all.
 
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I just read a Guardian article about Roundhay, that posh part of Leeds, where Liz Truss went to school. This quote tells more about Lies and Trust than it does about Liz Truss. Totally delusional way of (not) thinking.

Jane Lusardi, a retired secretary who went to Roundhay school back when it was a girls’ grammar.​
“I’ve been reading [Truss’s] comments in the local media about pupils being let down and people thought she was being very unfair. It’s not true that it’s a deprived area,” she said.​
“She got a good enough education at Roundhay to go to Oxford. I don’t agree with her comments at all.”​
As a lifelong Tory voter, Lusardi has been following the contest very closely and still backs Truss. “I find Liz Truss more believable. I’m not biased towards women but I think women are more honest,” she said.​

It's at this point you realise how truly farked we are as a nation. Rationality rode the last freedom moped out of nowhere city, boarded the final ferry of hope out of pre-brexit Britain, and is currently enjoying a gap-decade in Europe....
 

Unkraut

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“She got a good enough education at Roundhay to go to Oxford. I don’t agree with her comments at all.

There is a difference between intelligence and wisdom. An Oxford education may feed the intelligence, but you need wisdom to know what to do with all your knowledge.

Hence some very well educated people can say and do some very stupid things!
 

BoldonLad

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There is a difference between intelligence and wisdom. An Oxford education may feed the intelligence, but you need wisdom to know what to do with all your knowledge.

Hence some very well educated people can say and do some very stupid things!

So very true. ;)
 

deptfordmarmoset

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Roundhay wasn't that posh on the whole when I lived in Leeds. Posh parts of Leeds are Moortown, Alwoodley, Adel etc.
I was in Leeds for my first decade so perhaps my impression of Roundhay was formed by the attitudes of an even older generation around me. However, recent press coverage and Tweets seemed to confirm that the poshness still exists.
 

icowden

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I was in Leeds for my first decade so perhaps my impression of Roundhay was formed by the attitudes of an even older generation around me. However, recent press coverage and Tweets seemed to confirm that the poshness still exists.
Let's do a little compare and contrast between my daughter's school (private girls school) ND, my local comp (RIV) and Roundhay:-

No of pupils per year:-
Roundhay: 60
ND: 60 (occasionally 80 if they take a bulge)
RIV: 160

Liz would have joined Roundhay in around 1981 just after it had stopped being a selective school - most of the pupils and staff would have experienced the school as selective and older years would likely have been absent of difficult or bullying children, simply by the nature of being selective and kicking out those that didn't fit.

Her comments about the curriculum focusing on social issues might be justified in that the new head (1980) took the school from being selective to being a community comprehensive school

Some other comparisons:-
Roundhay: Based in a mansion, set in beautiful landscape, lots of facilities.
ND: Based in a mansion, set in beautiful landscape, more facilities than Roundhay
RIV: New build, pupils trash the facilities, gum in all the carpets, holes smashed in walls in the drama department.

OFSTED:
Roundhay: Outstanding
ND: Outstanding
RIV: Good (and they advertise this as an achievement).
 

BoldonLad

Old man on a bike. Not a member of a clique.
Location
South Tyneside
Let's do a little compare and contrast between my daughter's school (private girls school) ND, my local comp (RIV) and Roundhay:-

No of pupils per year:-
Roundhay: 60
ND: 60 (occasionally 80 if they take a bulge)
RIV: 160

Liz would have joined Roundhay in around 1981 just after it had stopped being a selective school - most of the pupils and staff would have experienced the school as selective and older years would likely have been absent of difficult or bullying children, simply by the nature of being selective and kicking out those that didn't fit.

Her comments about the curriculum focusing on social issues might be justified in that the new head (1980) took the school from being selective to being a community comprehensive school

Some other comparisons:-
Roundhay: Based in a mansion, set in beautiful landscape, lots of facilities.
ND: Based in a mansion, set in beautiful landscape, more facilities than Roundhay
RIV: New build, pupils trash the facilities, gum in all the carpets, holes smashed in walls in the drama department.

OFSTED:
Roundhay: Outstanding
ND: Outstanding
RIV: Good (and they advertise this as an achievement).

Not sure what you are trying to convey here?

It comes across to me as don’t send your kids to a State Comprehensive School?
 

icowden

Squire
Not sure what you are trying to convey here?

It comes across to me as don’t send your kids to a State Comprehensive School?

What I was trying to convey is that there are State Comprehensives and State Comprehensives. Roundhay is closer to being a Public School than it is to being your bog standard State Comprehensive. It seems clear to me that Truss is being disingenuous at best.

I do send my kids to a private school. We looked at all four local comprehensive secondary schools and were wildly unimpressed to say the least. Given that my eldest is dyslexic and my youngest Type 1 diabetic, the ability to send them both to a private school has been a godsend.
 

alicat

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Liz would have joined Roundhay in around 1981 just after it had stopped being a selective school - most of the pupils and staff would have experienced the school as selective and older years would likely have been absent of difficult or bullying children, simply by the nature of being selective and kicking out those that didn't fit.
Non-catholic schools in Leeds went comprehensive well before 1972 when I went to secondary school in Leeds so 'just' is not accurate nor is the statement about most of the pupils experiencing it as selective. I can't speak for the staff.

I did go to a selective school in Leeds and nobody 'got kicked out' at my school so I suggest that statement is at best based on conjecture.
 
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