matticus
Guru
You're right ... but don't forget what happened to Al Capone.
Yet more Tory sleaze….
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glasgowcyclist
Über Member
I do like this, particularly the queen's appearance...
View: https://twitter.com/PoliticsJOE_UK/status/1488174679764439041?s=20&t=UjKnUiKMuXjk40o3RR5IwQ
View: https://twitter.com/PoliticsJOE_UK/status/1488174679764439041?s=20&t=UjKnUiKMuXjk40o3RR5IwQ
Beebo
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Do you honestly believe there's a chance of Johnson doing time ? Are we meant to be just grateful if he stands down.
Small mercies but not enough.
matticus
Guru
Do you honestly think the "real scandal and corruption" will ever come to anything?
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No....should it ? Yes.
matticus
Guru
You can be grateful or not, it's up-to you. what does "meant to be" actually mean in this context?
Personally I'd be happy to see him stand down, with a criminal record and a £10k fine [believe this is the max penalty for organising parties?].
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What do you think I mean ? I'm meant to be happy if he stands down...nah.
Might be enough for you but not for me.I can't say I like the thought of Raab,Truss,Patel taking over either.The whole lot of them are complicit and should go.
BoldonLad
Old man on a bike. Not a member of a clique.
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Quite. When Cummings is being touted as a reliable source, we really are in deep sh+t
deptfordmarmoset
Über Member
However, when he becomes the most reliable source, we realise the shït is deeper than even him.
ebikeerwidnes
Senior Member
So
we have a PM who is concentrating on his own problems
In the meantime other things are not stopping but all we are concentrating on in PartyGate
When the PM personally becomes the news - in a bad way - then he is in the way of what he/she is supposed to be doing
The PMs job is to be the figurehead and to manage the cabinet ministers and provide focus on the policies
Instead he is the focus himself
and now we have a major international power openly LAUGHING at him
and his appointed foreign minister cannot get basic geography right - and is dumb enough to say it in the full glare of a statement to an enemy that
a) only respects strength
b) does not respect females
but she just did it
know them by the people they choose to surround themselves with
Yea Gods
we have a PM who is concentrating on his own problems
In the meantime other things are not stopping but all we are concentrating on in PartyGate
When the PM personally becomes the news - in a bad way - then he is in the way of what he/she is supposed to be doing
The PMs job is to be the figurehead and to manage the cabinet ministers and provide focus on the policies
Instead he is the focus himself
and now we have a major international power openly LAUGHING at him
and his appointed foreign minister cannot get basic geography right - and is dumb enough to say it in the full glare of a statement to an enemy that
a) only respects strength
b) does not respect females
but she just did it
know them by the people they choose to surround themselves with
Yea Gods
farfromtheland
Regular AND Goofy
Teresa May, as Home Secretary, was largely responsible for facilitating the behaviour and culture of the police as we see them now.
https://www.spectator.co.uk/article...-as-home-secretary-is-alarming-not-reassuring
"But many of the more disturbing tendencies in British policing have become worse under her leadership, most obviously the distortion of policing priorities by public relations concerns."
"The nadir of this phenomenon was Operation Midland, one of the most disgraceful episodes in the history of modern British policing. Millions of pounds were spent investigating allegations that various former ministers, intelligence chiefs and other top officials had been part of a paedophile ring"
"There is an argument that smaller overall numbers and decreased budgets don’t automatically translate to fewer frontline officers or less effective policing. But this assumes that forces are well-run and that resources aren’t so depleted that they cannot function. However, if many of your 43 separate forces are poorly managed and are culturally inclined to prioritise exciting, fashionable or easy aspects of policing – such as trawling social media for hate speech – over patrolling the streets, then smaller numbers will definitely make a difference for the worse."
A lot of important people had died before Saville was publicly exposed.
I dare suggest Teresa May then had enough clout as Home Secretary to do some things previously impossible.
And maintained on the goldfish attention span I fear.
- Sorry to chime in on this topic belatedly - I've been offline. And thanks for the news summary.
stowie
Active Member
Yeah. I was thinking mainly about Johnson being one of the key architects - and beneficiaries - of her demise as PM. Plus of course being massively disloyal with voting down her main plan along with the ERG.
May was awful. She was a weak and ineffective PM and her tenure as Home Secretary implemented awful policies which are still a problem. The whole "hostile environment" was her and led to Windrush scandal. She sent the famous "go home" vans out to areas like mine (saw one at our tube station). I would even argue she participated in the type of populist lie that is now the staple of Johnson with her "immigrants get visas because of the cat" BS. Which I heard repeated by a Tory interviewee only last year, despite it being an utter lie.
She was dreadful, and only mitigated by the fact that she was replaced by someone much, much worse. It isn't a ringing endorsement.
PaulB
Active Member
https://twitter.com/buddies1769/status/1488995537869279234?s=20&t=NSdhgrOYERFzb84YirwBnw
This is brilliant. Nauseating, but brilliant.
This is brilliant. Nauseating, but brilliant.
