Can the (Met) police ever change?

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multitool

Shaman
Nope its not a strawman - you countered that the police hadn't alienated everyone from those groups, as if therefore it wasn't really significant that they'd alienated so many of them.

That's something you've thought up all by yourself.

Actually as it happens it is about me - and all the other mes who happen to be women who happen not to trust the police around us, particularly if we are in a state of vulnerability, and that mistrust absolutely comes about because of the polices actions.

The further you get away from what I posted, the further you get away ftom understanding what I posted

The police may not be a 'hivemind' but they certainly have a 'culture' - their attitude to women particularly vulnerable women has a long and not brilliant history when it comes to womankind - sadly it reflects the attitude of the rest of society of course - this is not 'new' stuff.

Yes. The police are 'us'. Good. You've finally got it.
 

mudsticks

Squire
That's something you've thought up all by yourself.



The further you get away from what I posted, the further you get away ftom understanding what I posted



Yes. The police are 'us'. Good. You've finally got it.

And you're just another wearyingly patronising guy, in a long procession of same, who either doesnt get it, or doesn't care to get it.

Bye.
 

multitool

Shaman
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mudsticks

Squire
The failure to suspend Carrick from duty or investigate him for misconduct despite multiple reports made by women matches a pattern we identified back in March 2020 in a police super-complaint on police-perpetrated domestic abuse.
At that time we were looking at a sample of 19 cases from police forces across the country. Since then, we have been contacted by nearly 200 women who were victims of domestic abuse or sexual offences by police officers. In most cases those women have told us of their fears of reporting the officer, the often inadequate investigations, their victimisation by the abuser’s colleagues and the revenge exacted on them though criminalisation or through the family courts, with those they accuse misusing their police powers. In at least one case it drove a women to take her own life.

https://www.theguardian.com/comment...-trust-met-police-david-carrick-sarah-everard
 
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Deleted member 49

Guest
Thrown up by the investigation into the Chief Inspector, who killed himself. @Adam4868 posted about this around 3 pages back.

Seek and ye shall find seems to be the message.
How many have been covered up or protected because of the badge they wear !
The Met needs reforming from the top down...not fit for purpose.
 
Pretty sure the reaction to this amongst the police will be exactly the same as the reaction here or the wider community. ie. disgust.

I’m pretty sure you’re right. Every single time.
 

Rusty Nails

Country Member
Pretty sure the reaction to this amongst the police will be exactly the same as the reaction here or the wider community. ie. disgust.

I have no doubt you are right about the specific cases of child porn.

However most of the cases written about on this thread do not involve child porn, but sexual abuse of women, and I believe the level of disgust will not be as widespread.

There will be a lot of panicked checking and deletion of personal social media posts throughout the police...if they believe their force management are serious about rooting such behaviour out.
 

deptfordmarmoset

Über Member
A female police commissioner (Donna Jones?) was on BBC Radio 4 this morning. She was firmly of the view that the Met is unmanageably large and should be split into perhaps 3 separate police forces to get them closer to a typical size. It might make policing the police an easier task but only if there are 3 equally committed commissioners.
 

mudsticks

Squire
I’m pretty sure you’re right. Every single time.
Perhaps it might be truer to say that there are varying degrees of 'disgust' depending on the offence .
I have no doubt you are right about the specific cases of child porn.

However most of the cases written about on this thread do not involve child porn, but sexual abuse of women, and I believe the level of disgust will not be as widespread.

There will be a lot of panicked checking and deletion of personal social media posts throughout the police...if they believe their force management are serious about rooting such behaviour out.
Uhuh, it simply can't be that every single officer is equally disgusted every single time a case of abuse comes up.

Unless of course, those individual officers have done some sort of mental gymnastics, whereby they think it's ok for they themselves personally to be abusive, but that the other guys mustn't do it because that would be terribly poor form 🙄
 
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multitool

Shaman

I googled the term "teacher groomed student" and this is what appeared...

https://www.google.com/search?ie=UT...rce=android-browser&q=teacher+groomed+student

..so does this mean that these teachers' colleagues will be cheering them on in the classroom? Do you think the paedo teachers boasted about it in the staffroom? Did colleagues cover up for them? Threatening whistle-blowers? Is there a culture of abuse in UK schools? Or is it, bluntly, just men in a position of power, abusing their immediate power?

It seems to me that vetting and oversight are the issues at play with regards to policing.
 
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