Can the (Met) police ever change?

[newfhouse]

View: https://twitter.com/brokenbottleboy/status/1654872359365402624?t=f0iiZQGARXzWVSb7w-b53w&s=19

Living the brand.

 

[Ian H]

Living the brand.

They seem to have been given carte blanche to stop protests by any means short of actual GBH.

 

[C R]

They seem to have been given carte blanche to stop protests by any means short of actual GBH.

Thing is, those people weren't protesters.

Also, reading this,
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...with-far-right-group-in-anti-drag-act-protest

With some people reporting bruises from being kicked by the police it would seem that at least ABH is allowed.

 

[Deleted member 49]

WTF....
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news...-over-wayne-couzens-indecent-exposure-inquiry

"While under investigation for the failings, Lee quit the force and reportedly set up an OnlyFans account called Officer Naughty. She now faces being barred for life from the police service."

 

[AuroraSaab]

Lazy officer and indecent exposure not being regarded as important enough to bother with, even though it's well known as an indicator for escalation to worse crimes. I hope they reviewed all the cases she was involved with.

 

[theclaud]

BTP on this occasion, but this is horrific.


View: https://twitter.com/HWistrich/status/1669248680765845506?t=oNjpYDeqNP1fqcS-kOXBnQ&s=19

 

[Ian H]

What we need is people to police the police.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news...-with-rape-of-girl?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Other

 

[glasgowcyclist]

What we need is people to police the police.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news...-with-rape-of-girl?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Other

I saw that on the BBC earlier.

This is from their report:

“The ex-police watchdog director general has been charged with raping a girl under 16 and indecent assault.​

Michael Lockwood, 64, is accused of six counts of indecent assault and three counts of rape against a girl under 16.​

He left the Independent Office for Police Conduct in December after it emerged he was being investigated over a historical allegation.​

The nine offences allegedly took place in the 1980s, the Crown Prosecution Service said.​

Rosemary Ainslie, head of the special crime division at the CPS, said: "After carefully considering all of the evidence provided to us by Humberside Police, we have authorised charges against Michael Lockwood, 64, for nine offences under the Sexual Offences Act 1956.​

"Mr Lockwood has been charged with six counts of indecent assault and three offences of rape against a girl under the age of 16, alleged to have been committed during the 1980s.”​

 

[Bromptonaut]

I think that maybe we need a few more facts about what exactly happened, when and exactly how old both parties actually were at the time.

 

[BoldonLad]

I think that maybe we need a few more facts about what exactly happened, when and exactly how old both parties actually were at the time.

If he is 64 now, then, in the 1980s he would have been approximately anywhere from 21-30 years old, depending just when in the 1980s.

 

[Bromptonaut]

If he is 64 now, then, in the 1980s he would have been approximately anywhere from 21-30 years old, depending just when in the 1980s.

I've now seen a report that says the alleged incidents were c1986 in which case he'd have been around 26.

I suspect that if he had been 19/20 and she almost 16 then, absent serious threatened violence or coercion in the mix, it wouldn't have got passed the threshold for prosecution.

 

[mudsticks]

It's not a problem restricted to The Met.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-65768798


Women are being let down by forces whose officers have "preyed upon" them, says Dame Vera Baird, the former victims' commissioner.

"There couldn't be a bigger breach of confidence and faith."

Interviews with multiple former police officers and women, leaked documents and freedom of information request responses reveal:

A woman was repeatedly sent messages requesting sex - one asked for "no emotions though, just laughs, likes and plenty of shagging"
Cases the BBC has investigated involve women known to be rape and domestic abuse victims and an adult who was sexually assaulted as a child
An officer has faced 20 separate allegations, while another who faced nine was only given a final written warning
One force deleted footage of a woman claiming an inspector had raped her, while another failed to prevent a rape detective's phone being wiped following his arrest over claims he had sex with multiple victims

I've now seen a report that says the alleged incidents were c1986 in which case he'd have been around 26.

I suspect that if he had been 19/20 and she almost 16 then, absent serious threatened violence or coercion in the mix, it wouldn't have got passed the threshold for prosecution.

And people wonder why women don't want to come forward to report.??

 

[mudsticks]

I think that maybe we need a few more facts about what exactly happened, when and exactly how old both parties actually were at the time.

I think we need a lot more education on true consent, and far more rigorous discussions and education around relationship and sex.

A lot less finding of 'excuses' or 'loopholes' that justifies this kind of behaviour.

I know a lot of people find these issues particularly difficult because if they're honest with themselves they themselves have at some time been perpetrators themselves, and or overlooked abusive behaviours in others.

Just as there are many victims who didn't even regard themselves as victims at the time, because abusive and or coercive behaviour was pretty much 'normalised' or they didn't feel they 'deserved' any better.

 

[glasgowcyclist]

This is grim reading. Two former Met cops, along with a serving Chief Inspector who was found dead on the day he was due to be charged, shared over 4,500 images of child sexual abuse, more than half of which was in the most serious category.

The report adds that:

Following a search of Laxton's mobile phone, messages were found including a conversation with Watkinson, who was on duty at the time, about a missing person investigation into a 14-year-old who had been raped. ​

They exchanged sexual messages about the victim, with Laxton saying "put me in touch [with them]", adding "can't wait for the details". He also encouraged Watkinson to send him a photograph of the victim.​

The rot is deeply ingrained within the Met.

 

[mudsticks]

This is grim reading. Two former Met cops, along with a serving Chief Inspector who was found dead on the day he was due to be charged, shared over 4,500 images of child sexual abuse, more than half of which was in the most serious category.

The report adds that:

Following a search of Laxton's mobile phone, messages were found including a conversation with Watkinson, who was on duty at the time, about a missing person investigation into a 14-year-old who had been raped. ​

They exchanged sexual messages about the victim, with Laxton saying "put me in touch [with them]", adding "can't wait for the details". He also encouraged Watkinson to send him a photograph of the victim.​

The rot is deeply ingrained within the Met.

It is quite horrific that this kind of thing is to be found within the police, but sadly it's not like the force is an exclusive haven for people with these kind of proclivities.

It's not as if the rest of the 'general public' is necessarily any freer of depravity of this sort.

You only have to see how much violence against women and children is used as 'entertainment' both in mainstream media, and in porn that's freely available, to realise how hurting the more vulnerable, whether sexually or otherwise, is a fantasy all too common to all too many.

But it's ignored as being a 'problem' , either because it's normalised.

Or else it's too awkward to tackle as a subject, at all.