Donald I, emperor of the world.

[Rusty Nails]

I can't help, but wonder if other people found guilty of comparable offences would get similar punishment. Can eg a business person appeal a prison term appeal on the grounds that others got nothing.

Ian

Any other incoming President with a large majority probably would, especially a week before inauguration.

Naive and wishful thinking to expect anything else. The law is not blind to differing circumstances.

 

[Beebo]

Any other incoming President with a large majority probably would, especially a week before inauguration.

Naive and wishful thinking to expect anything else. The law is not blind to differing circumstances.

It that assumes other incoming presidents would be convicted criminals

 

[Rusty Nails]

It that assumes other incoming presidents would be convicted criminals

It assumes nothing. It was hypothetical.

 

[the snail]

 

[monkers]

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Why did Manbaby Musk not make the cut for selection here, any idea?

 

[ebikeerwidnes]

They also lost it.

Any other incoming President with a large majority probably would, especially a week before inauguration.

Naive and wishful thinking to expect anything else. The law is not blind to differing circumstances.

I can understand a punishment or decision being postponed until after his term

but saying it is just not possible to do anything other than let him off with no punishment of any kind - even though he is guilty - is just amazing!!

 

[ebikeerwidnes]

Just seena bit of the Great Inauguration

trump "dancing" with the Village People singing YMCA

still makes me laugh after all this time of the "Alpha Male" trump dancing happily to a gay anthem!!

 

[Psamathe]

but saying it is just not possible to do anything other than let him off with no punishment of any kind - even though he is guilty - is just amazing!!

I agree. All should be equal under the law ie law applies to everybody..

But it also highlights the issue about Presidential Pardon. eg son of President commits offence, pleads guilty and then Dad pardons him so no punishment. Not only pardoning his son but then malign the public servants at the Department of Justice (https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/jan/14/hunter-joe-biden-special-counsel-report). Justice seems based on who you are, who you know - no way for a fair society to operate. Although Biden pardoning his son is not unique to me it does highlight quite a few of Biden's moral failings.

Ian

 

[Ian H]

I can understand a punishment or decision being postponed until after his term

but saying it is just not possible to do anything other than let him off with no punishment of any kind - even though he is guilty - is just amazing!!

Who are you calling gay?
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...-rally-ymca-song-village-people-b2682582.html

 

[bobzmyunkle]

However, Victor Willis, the group’s lead singer and the only original member left in the band, shared a statement last month explaining why it’s a “false assumption” to view the song as a gay anthem and even “defamatory” to label it as such.

 

[Psamathe]

However, Victor Willis, the group’s lead singer and the only original member left in the band, shared a statement last month explaining why it’s a “false assumption” to view the song as a gay anthem and even “defamatory” to label it as such.

It's an interesting aspect to our society, how things can take on a meaning that wasn't part of the original intent and how widespread and persistent that social context meaning can become.

So whlst the song might not have been written as a "gay anthem" does that mean it isn't a "gay anthem"? Another example might be the expression "From the river to the sea" - originally a Zionist slogan. Used by Israeli political parties (jn the 70's) to refer to an area of intended Israeli sovereignty yet today even UK politicians are saying UK Palestinian supporting protestors should be imprisoned for uttering the phrase in public.

Ian

 

[Ian H]

However, Victor Willis, the group’s lead singer and the only original member left in the band, shared a statement last month explaining why it’s a “false assumption” to view the song as a gay anthem and even “defamatory” to label it as such.

See above

 

[bobzmyunkle]

So whlst the song might not have been written as a "gay anthem" does that mean it isn't a "gay anthem"?

Best ask Victor Willis. It seems to be important to him.

“However, I don’t mind that gays think of the song as their anthem,”

Says he's performing for the Trumpsters to represent the LGBTQ+ community. I can't imagine he needs more retirement dollars, so let's take him at his word. Could be he's MAGA or maybe just politically naive.

 

[Rusty Nails]

I agree. All should be equal under the law ie law applies to everybody..

But it also highlights the issue about Presidential Pardon. eg son of President commits offence, pleads guilty and then Dad pardons him so no punishment. Not only pardoning his son but then malign the public servants at the Department of Justice (https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/jan/14/hunter-joe-biden-special-counsel-report). Justice seems based on who you are, who you know - no way for a fair society to operate. Although Biden pardoning his son is not unique to me it does highlight quite a few of Biden's moral failings.

Ian

I am not sure that all have ever been equal under either our or any other country’s law. Nice slogan to feed the masses but the establishment will always be flexible about what it means in practice.
The US, Russia and China, and every other country, have always had their own versions of law, justice and punishment and it’s fine to have a rant about it, especially if Trump is involved, but at the end of the day it’s less relevant than our own version of law, justice and punishment which is far from perfect.

The big crime is Trump’s pathetic Dad-shuffle to YMCA rather than going with the all out drunken party version.

 

[Fab Foodie]

A well timed calamity today could be the savior of the western world....