General Election 2024....

[icowden]

View: https://youtu.be/dlnad82oNRc?si=foWNVKVeojtTslgE

I'm impressed. You found a video in which almost every assertion is wrong.
Britain is not "moving right". The Conservative party was/is right wing. Farage and Tice made an ultra right wing party which syphoned off the more swivel eyed of the Tory voters. In the mean time the more centrist Tory voters were persuaded to vote Lib Dem - just to get rid of some of the incompetent idiots in the Tory Party, and because of some very shrewd strategizing by the Lib Dems.

Yes, Labour's vote share hasn't changed, and yes - your man is correct when he states that the Labour party didn't so much win as the Tory party lost, But if anything, rather than being right wing, the country is more disillusioned with Politics than anything else.

 

[multitool]

I don't know why you bother, CXR.

You are the only moron here. Nobody else watches this shîte.

 

[AndyRM]

I don't know why you bother, CXR.

You are the only moron here. Nobody else watches this shîte.

I watched about 2 minutes of that and wondered what the hell point the guy was trying to make.

 

[multitool]

You have to be a special kind of idiot to watch a landslide victory of the Labour Party, record breaking in fact, and conclude that it demonstrates the country is "moving right"

Especially when the biggest indication is that the result was a repudiation of the Tories, who had themselves moved to the right.

CXR's crappy videos are of no interest. What is interesting is where the Tory party goes from here, and it will be determined by cooler heads. It cannot now avoid the question of whether it is a mainstream centre-right party (such as it was before Brexit) or whether it is the populist party it became post Brexit. The problem the Tory party faces is that this question has to be answered, and either answer will lose the party half its membership.

The fools answer would be to lurch further to the right, but this would be pure folly because the Tories have just been defeated by the left, not by Reform. They came second to Labour and the Lib Dems in 283 seats, but they came second to Reform in only two.

Far from moving right ward, this country has planted itself firmly in the centre.

 

[Tanis8472]

This is the attitude of the DIE/woke/snowflake.

No pride in their own nation, people. Being the best in the world.

It's an accident of birth. I have no affinity for any country. Its stupid if you ask me.

 

[Deleted member 159]

You have to be a special kind of idiot to watch a landslide victory of the Labour Party, record breaking in fact, and conclude that it demonstrates the country is "moving right"

Especially when the biggest indication is that the result was a repudiation of the Tories, who had themselves moved to the right.

CXR's crappy videos are of no interest. What is interesting is where the Tory party goes from here, and it will be determined by cooler heads. It cannot now avoid the question of whether it is a mainstream centre-right party (such as it was before Brexit) or whether it is the populist party it became post Brexit. The problem the Tory party faces is that this question has to be answered, and either answer will lose the party half its membership.

The fools answer would be to lurch further to the right, but this would be pure folly because the Tories have just been defeated by the left, not by Reform. They came second to Labour and the Lib Dems in 283 seats, but they came second to Reform in only two.

Far from moving right ward, this country has planted itself firmly in the centre.

There seems to be quite an interest in what he had to say, over 300k views in 24 hours. For a nobody YT channel.

 

[AndyRM]

There seems to be quite an interest in what he had to say, over 300k views in 24 hours. For a nobody YT channel.

That's not very many.

 

[icowden]

There seems to be quite an interest in what he had to say, over 300k views in 24 hours. For a nobody YT channel.

Yes, because it keeps being reposted by people who haven't applied the necessary level of critical thinking and then gets watched by people who have so that they can point out the inherent flaws in the argument. That's how viral videos work. Post something stupid, the fans circulate it and the clever people watch it to try to help the fans realise why they have been duped.

 

[multitool]

There seems to be quite an interest in what he had to say, over 300k views in 24 hours. For a nobody YT channel.

Who cares?

Did you miss the general election? Are you still clinging on to your silent majority bullshît?

It's pointless trying to discuss anything with you. Everything you say is in bad faith, and you only deal in simplistic superficialities.

 

[icowden]

Especially when the biggest indication is that the result was a repudiation of the Tories, who had themselves moved to the right.

Do you think? I mean - I agree with you to a point, but I think that one of the key factors is that the Conservatives have essentially split into two parties and divided their own vote. The ultra-right nut jobs went to reform leaving only the right wing nut jobs supporting the Tories. They didn't bother to try for the right-centrist vote so Lib Dems hoovered that up. Meantime Starmer positioned Labour as centre left to ensure that they retained the left wing vote and gained a bit of that centre left slice.

Far from moving right ward, this country has planted itself firmly in the centre.

This I agree with.

 

[Deleted member 159]

That's not very many.

Yes it is in 24 hours. A few thousand to tens of thousands might be classed small interest.

 

[AndyRM]

Yes it is in 24 hours. A few thousand to tens of thousands might be classed small interest.

No. It isn't.

@icowden is spot on in his summary.

You've repeatedly demonstrated that you don't understand how social media works, so it's not really a surprise you don't get the analytics side of it either.

 

[AndyRM]

For a start it's 330k views in 2 days, so it's already looking even less impressive.

And look at Triggernometry's other videos. Despite the inflammatory headlines the views are low which suggests that beyond the channel's hardcore support, it's really not particularly popular beyond that.

 

[multitool]

I think what is so funny about AndyCXR is that he is equating 'views' of the content with 'agreement' of the content.

 

[icowden]

I think what is so funny about AndyCXR is that he is equating 'views' of the content with 'agreement' of the content.

Indeed - this was one of the more pernicious elements of Trump's account on Twitter. He would boast of the coverage that he was getting and the "likes" and "retweets" without realising that views, retweets and likes don't indicate anything other than someone looked at something and wanted to show someone else that thing. At the time, a "like" was the only way of bookmarking something as well.