C R
Über Member
Neil Kinnock is not as blasse about the threat from Farage as you and your mate Starmer.
https://www.theguardian.com/politic...our-nationalist-threat-nigel-farage-reform-uk
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Neil Kinnock is not as blasse about the threat from Farage as you and your mate Starmer.
https://www.theguardian.com/politic...our-nationalist-threat-nigel-farage-reform-uk
multitool
Guest
What? So actors can't hold political views?
When actors come out in support of Labour are they 'acting'?
Are you seriously suggesting that there is no such thing as a racist actor?
Why is thinking that Reform supporters are racists just so believable?
Why are you so keen to delegitimise this story? Do you think racists don't exist in Reform despite the overwhelming evidence?
Beebo
Veteran
Also the police are investigating his comments so I’m sure they will find out all the facts.
D
Deleted member 159
Guest
If a person was opening saying those, is either a complete and utter idiot, or its a set up. If the police do drag him in to investigate.
multitool
Guest
stowie
Active Member
Do you think that there aren't people - when they think they are in the company of fellow minds - who not only hold these views but will espouse them freely? Hell, there are people more than willing to say similar things on camera or in a public or semi-public setting. See stories around Tory donor and Diane Abbott.
The fact he is an actor will be only relevant if he was specifically acting those views. If he is a Reform activist who happens to be an actor then being an actor is no more relevant than if he was a cook or an astronaut. We have Laurence Fox - an actor and quite a successful one - venting all manner of views very freely, I doubt he is acting them.
stowie
Active Member
Reform - specifically Nigel Farage - is a master of gaining airtime to voice grievances both real and imaginary. They are far less effective at offering palatable or workable solutions and tend to fall apart at first exposure to any scrutiny.
Reform is sitting around 16%. Probably half of that are die-hard Reform voters who are unaffected (and probably agree) with any of the nastier comments from Reform activists and candidates. The other 6-8% are people for whom Reform rhetoric and concerns around topics such as immigration strike a chord but for whom some of the commentary from Reform and Farage would be deeply concerning.
Farage's Ukraine / Russia comments highlight something interesting. A good section of his Reform voter base believe Putin is a malevolent force who must be countered. Farage either doesn't care about this, or more likely, doesn't understand this. He is transferring Trump talking points and positions into UK politics where the geography alone makes attitudes very different. It is quite hard to have an isolationist policy when Kyiv is 3 hours flight from Heathrow.
Reform is sitting around 16%. Probably half of that are die-hard Reform voters who are unaffected (and probably agree) with any of the nastier comments from Reform activists and candidates. The other 6-8% are people for whom Reform rhetoric and concerns around topics such as immigration strike a chord but for whom some of the commentary from Reform and Farage would be deeply concerning.
Farage's Ukraine / Russia comments highlight something interesting. A good section of his Reform voter base believe Putin is a malevolent force who must be countered. Farage either doesn't care about this, or more likely, doesn't understand this. He is transferring Trump talking points and positions into UK politics where the geography alone makes attitudes very different. It is quite hard to have an isolationist policy when Kyiv is 3 hours flight from Heathrow.
theclaud
Reading around the chip
WE ARE IN A DOOM LOOP, MARTIN!
Can't argue with that, in a way...
View: https://twitter.com/OfSymbols/status/1805857921172897845
Can't argue with that, in a way...
View: https://twitter.com/OfSymbols/status/1805857921172897845
glasgowcyclist
Über Member
I think it’s feckin’ hilarious.
You’ve got one Reform activist pretending to be a racist while every other activist and candidate is pretending not to be! 😂
Ian H
Legendary Member
I think CXRA is saying that, if he's cunning enough not to voice those views openly, there can't possibly be anyone more stupid, so it must be a set-up.
albion
Guru
Farage is sticking to the subject of immigrants, choosing to ignore the economical catastrophe of Brexit.
Interestingly, he is not as insanely repetitive as Trump was in his debate. However Farage is a good bit younger than 'one liner' Trump.
Actually, Trump now has a second line, 'revenge', though that is probably being used as a stick to threaten his sentencer/s.
Interestingly, he is not as insanely repetitive as Trump was in his debate. However Farage is a good bit younger than 'one liner' Trump.
Actually, Trump now has a second line, 'revenge', though that is probably being used as a stick to threaten his sentencer/s.
AndyRM
Elder Goth
It's the bulls he milks, not the otters.
Personally I've always kept mine as obedient subs who were rarely, if ever, allowed release.
albion
Guru
https://www.theguardian.com/politic...g-for-him-is-this-the-end-for-jacob-rees-mogg
Boundaries are moved. A split vote just might cause him to lose.
Boundaries are moved. A split vote just might cause him to lose.
