General Election 2024....

[AndyRM]

 

[AndyRM]

No, Corbyn who lost the last election.

Most of us have moved on from that...

 

[matticus]

Clive Myrie is reading out the exit poll.

Conservatives: 131

Labour: 410

Liberal Democrats: 61

SNP: 10

Reform UK: 13

Plaid Cymru: 4

Greens: 2

How did they get Reform so badly wrong?
(apoligies if this has been answered in the umpteen pages since 10om!)

 

[icowden]

You seem to be in a minority of 1 saying its the most left wing parliament in years. Most people seem to be saying there is little between the Torys & Labour in terms of policies. Are you suggesting then that the Tories have lurched massively to the left?

I'm suggesting that 502 seats are occupied by MPs who represent centrist or left wing parties whilst only 125 seats represent right wing parties.
That's 77% of parliament as being centre or left as compared with 44% in 2019.

That's a big shift.

 

[icowden]

How did they get Reform so badly wrong?
(apoligies if this has been answered in the umpteen pages since 10om!)

I think because the size of the reform vote was so unpredictable between constituencies and where they could win, the win tended to be very marginal. They don't have any "safe" seats.

 

[icowden]

An 'isolated' result that surprised me, was that of the Greens in Bristol Central, where Labour's Thangam Debbonaire
was beaten by over 10,000 votes . . . why ?

Bristol has been getting greener and greener. It's a very eco-friendly city and the Greens obviously were able to leverage that to get their candidate elected.

 

[Deleted member 159]

I'm suggesting that 502 seats are occupied by MPs who represent centrist or left wing parties whilst only 125 seats represent right wing parties.
That's 77% of parliament as being centre or left as compared with 44% in 2019.

That's a big shift.

Tories aren't right wing anymore. They are just right of labour, both still on the left of centre

 

[Deleted member 159]

Bristol has been getting greener and greener. It's a very eco-friendly city and the Greens obviously were able to leverage that to get their candidate elected.

Bristol is another city about to go bankrupt if it can't balance its books pretty darn quick

 

[icowden]

Tories aren't right wing anymore. They are just right of labour, both still on the left of centre

Don't be silly. They still have Braverman, Cleverly, Sunak, Hunt and many more. They are by no stretch anything other than right wing. That's why they lost.

 

[icowden]

Bristol is another city about to go bankrupt if it can't balance its books pretty darn quick

That's most councils.

 

[Deleted member 159]

Don't be silly. They still have Braverman, Cleverly, Sunak, Hunt and many more. They are by no stretch anything other than right wing. That's why they lost.

They have one or two who are right , but not as a party overall

 

[Deleted member 159]

That's most councils.

No it's not

https://www.newstatesman.com/spotli...lared,financial situation at English councils.

 

[bobzmyunkle]

I'm suggesting that 502 seats are occupied by MPs who represent centrist or left wing parties whilst only 125 seats represent right wing parties.

Tories aren't right wing anymore. They are just right of labour, both still on the left of centre

Left wing parties? Tories not right wing?
I must be living in a different country.

 

[bobzmyunkle]

They have one or two who are right , but not as a party overall

Interesting comment on one of the TV programs this morning - they have a very reduced talent pool.
Given recent years that takes some thinking about.

 

[AndyRM]

They have one or two who are right , but not as a party overall

Go on then, how are the Conservatives anywhere near left wing?

This should be a wild ride.