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Laurence Fox vs Mukhtar
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Bazzer
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Only in your biblical world does this make sense, which sort of confirms my statement 🙂........ ..
The population of the world to date has been increasing. If you reverse this by going back in time, then using the estimates of population size in history you end up with one man and one woman about 6000 years ago. Make of that what you will.
AndyRM
Elder Goth
Dr Clifford Hill, sociologist and pastor for 60 years in the east end of London wrote a book The Reshaping of Modern Britain. In this he alludes to a 1972 Gay Liberation Movement pamphlet still in his possession setting out the goal of dismantling traditional heterosexual marriage. The GLC in the 80's was also well into wanting the destruction of heteronormativity.
Hill did a lot of research into the effects of family breakdown resulting from this, and its connection with increasing lawlessness and violence amongst the young, and got the agreement of Jack Straw, the then Home Secretary, to include support of the traditional family in a govt bill. This never happened, and Hill is sure this was due to lobbying by the gay community.
Hell is being 'cancelled' for the whole of eternity. Excluded from a new heavens and a new earth. Where justice is applied to what I have done and thought, not to what they did - slave traders from 250 years ago or some shadowy entity known as the patriarchy.
It may be that a few seem to have had same-sex attraction for as long as they can remember, but this does not compel them to act on these impulses. I might add God never created anyone that way, it is a sign of a fallen world and high-handed rebellion. The whole thing is an absurd attack on Christianity by atheists. I reckon I could do better than that ... !
That is why the believers in the C of E at present simply cannot go along with the bishops manipulating 'gay blessings' onto the agenda.
I have a modern languages degree in German, a post-graduate diploma in the techniques of translation for German and Dutch. Add to that 20 years or so of working as a translator. May not make me infallible, but it does give me the right to express an opinion ...
I probably learnt more about the philosphy of translation from reading around the translation issues of the bible than from the above courses, however.
My son-in-law, who is extremely intelligent, can read the OT in Hebrew, the NT in Greek, old Babylonian and Latin. Useful on discussing the translation issues of Leviticus and the Greek NT.
The OT is a sophisticated law code. The laws of Hammurabi are reasonably contempory with it (a bit earlier), and no-one seems to credit this to being written by goat herders. Moses was instructed in the civilisation of the Egyptians.
Can't atheists and agnostics do better than this? To take just one from your list, Abraham was indeed instructed by God to sacrifice his son and many an atheist waxes lyrical and with great outrage against this, but having not read the text don't seem to realise it never happened!
The population of the world to date has been increasing. If you reverse this by going back in time, then using the estimates of population size in history you end up with one man and one woman about 6000 years ago. Make of that what you will.
I'm neither an atheist, not an agnostic.
Fab Foodie
Guru
I'm a dyslexic atheist, I don't believe in dog....
Mr Celine
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Rusty Nails
Country Member
I have sex weakly.
Ian H
Guru
To some extent I base my comments on conversations with three friends who spent their working lives in intelligence services as translators. But also on commentary about the many differing translations of Ancient Greek works, detailing how they vary and how no single translation can be regarded as definitive.
I probably learnt more about the philosphy of translation from reading around the translation issues of the bible than from the above courses, however.
The Crofted Crest
Active Member
Very true. But then, no single source text can be regarded as definitive.
the snail
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The population of the world to date has been increasing. If you reverse this by going back in time, then using the estimates of population size in history you end up with one man and one woman about 6000 years ago. Make of that what you will.
Utter nonsense. Where do you get your information from? Kent Hovind?
AndyRM
Elder Goth
The lovely conspiracy and made up nonsense fans get their information from the best sources.
Ian H
Guru
Given that, as the DNA proves, modern humans are hybrids with Neanderthal genes, did Neanderthals have souls? John Wesley decided animals did.
newfhouse
pleb
Tease. What do you make of it?
Do you believe either the universe or human life was created 6000 years ago?
icowden
Legendary Member
I mostly make it that you have failed to take into account the impact of modern medicine on preserving longevity and thus creating population growth vs the high death rate once you go back a few hundred years, plus a general failure to understand the history of man.The population of the world to date has been increasing. If you reverse this by going back in time, then using the estimates of population size in history you end up with one man and one woman about 6000 years ago. Make of that what you will.
here's a nice chart with some actual estimated figures based on science
https://www.worldometers.info/world-population/world-population-by-year/
Spolier - in 5000BC the estimated world population of humans was between 5 million and 20 million.
https://www.census.gov/data/tables/...ational-programs/historical-est-worldpop.html
Ian H
Guru
Adam & Eve must have been at it like rabbits.
newfhouse
pleb
And their two sons.
