pubrunner
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What, as in actually getting elected rather than delivering the biggest defeat for almost a century?
Is this really a 'fair' comparison to make ?
Back in 2019, do you think Starmer would have done appreciably better than Jeremy Corbyn ? (I don't think he would have done)
The current government is dreadful - I think there is universal agreement on this; but will Starmer win the next election on merit - the strength of his 'vision' & policies, or is it the case that folk will be voting for 'anyone other than the Tories' ? I think it's the latter and I also believe that were he still leader, Jeremy Corbyn would have at least as good a chance as Starmer, of winning the next election.
IMO, Starmer will almost certainly win the next election. Some Labour supporters say things such as - "we first have to win and hold the reins of power before we can change anything". But given that Starmer appears to be Tory-lite, it is difficult to see what changes will be made ?. Jeremy Corbyn probably promised too much, but at least he offered a clear message and positivity and hope to the young.
I live in North Shropshire - held by the Conservatives for 115 years, when Lib Dem Helen Morgan won the seat - which was previously held by the disgraced Owen Paterson. Those to whom I've spoken, have said that they'll vote again for Helen Morgan - because they don't think Labour under Starmer will make any radical changes and that the country will 'feel' much the same as it currently does - a dire mess. In other words, it'll be more of the same.