Starmer's vision quest

[multitool]

I thought "the media" was a bad thing?, right wing scumbags and all that?

It doesn't matter what they are, but they don't seem to be trying to hatchet Starmer and his team.

I guess they want to be seen backing the winner.

 

[C R]

He's not even in power.

So he needs to be in power before he can form a plan?

 

[multitool]

So he needs to be in power before he can form a plan?

Maybe he has formulated one, but he'd be a fool to publicise it now.

 

[theclaud]

It doesn't matter what they are, but they don't seem to be trying to hatchet Starmer and his team.

I guess they want to be seen backing the winner.

Billionaire Media Comfortable With Starmer Shock.

 

[multitool]

Billionaire Media Comfortable With Starmer Shock.

Let's all bang our heads on the wall in unison shall we, chanting 'Ohhhh Jeeeremy Coorbyn'.

 

[newfhouse]

Let's all bang our heads on the wall in unison shall we, chanting 'Ohhhh Jeeeremy Coorbyn'.

Too binary. It’s reasonable to believe that Starmer’s Labour lacks ambition (beyond gaining power) or principle (I have lots of them) without having a hankering for Corbyn’s second coming.

 

[theclaud]

Let's all bang our heads on the wall in unison shall we, chanting 'Ohhhh Jeeeremy Coorbyn'.

Rent-free, Multers. No one has mentioned Corbyn for pages. It's currently about the fact that the corporate billionaire media is endorsing your boy. I think that's because they're comfortable that there's zero threat to the existing power structure from his administration. Which in turn means there's zero prospect of structural change that will begin to fix what's wrong. You're apparently convinced not only that there's a Brilliant Plan that's contrary to these indications and to everything we already know about the politics of Starmer and his cabinet, but that it's a Brilliant Plan that we'll all get behind, despite their being no clue as to what it might be and no instinct to treat voters as people who might expect it to be shared with them. Believe what you like, but it's odd to behave as if it's everyone else that is being wildly irrational.

 

[Deleted member 49]

Tax the profits of big corporations,tax the wealthy and the banks that fecked us during the pandemic...anyone who thinks there's no money in this country is living under a rock.

View: https://twitter.com/CarolineLucas/status/1699029753318048002?t=CTMIFhLruh3Db79KbeBfew&s=19

 

[Deleted member 49]

Competency and different values 😂
We're fecked aren't we

View: https://twitter.com/Channel4News/status/1699073928503951845?t=Xu3FNVrCFOyoEKMfA3adMw&s=19

 

[multitool]

Rent-free, Multers. No one has mentioned Corbyn for pages. It's currently about the fact that the corporate billionaire media is endorsing your boy. I think that's because they're comfortable that there's zero threat to the existing power structure from his administration. Which in turn means there's zero prospect of structural change that will begin to fix what's wrong. You're apparently convinced not only that there's a Brilliant Plan that's contrary to these indications and to everything we already know about the politics of Starmer and his cabinet, but that it's a Brilliant Plan that we'll all get behind, despite their being no clue as to what it might be and no instinct to treat voters as people who might expect it to be shared with them. Believe what you like, but it's odd to behave as if it's everyone else that is being wildly irrational.

Steady, you are doing an Aurora. This master plan is in your head, not mine. Its patently obvious to me that change has to be gradual, and can only be enacted if in power. Which brings me on to...

If you believe that the papers destroyed Corbyn because he threatened the structures then you have to believe that they would do the same to Starmer if he threatened them.

Let's all bang our heads then.

 

[Bromptonaut]

If you believe that the papers destroyed Corbyn because he threatened the structures then you have to believe that they would do the same to Starmer if he threatened them.

Which is why he's moved away from soft left to Blairism as emphatically spelled out by who was out and who was in yesterday.

If, once in power, he's willing to flex his muscles then there's hope.

 

[multitool]

Which is why he's moved away from soft left to Blairism as emphatically spelled out by who was out and who was in yesterday.

If, once in power, he's willing to flex his muscles then there's hope.

Yanno. It's pretty clear that he, thankfully, has learned the lesson of the Corbyn debacle.

There's also an assumption that there are answers to the integral issues the UK faces. Whatever they are, they aren't going to be trite soundbites, and they are going to require years not months to plan.

Saying "we need radical overhaul" is the easy bit.

 

[Deleted member 49]

There's also an assumption that there are answers to the integral issues the UK faces. Whatever they are, they aren't going to be trite soundbites, and they are going to require years not months to plan.

Whatever they are lol.

Saying "we need radical overhaul" is the easy bit.

If only....either spend money and fix things or talk the fecking drivel you lap up.

 

[theclaud]

Saying "we need radical overhaul" is the easy bit.

Seems to be really hard for some, TBH.

 

[Pale Rider]

Blimey, some of you Labour punters are never happy.

You've finally got a leader who may be able to remove you from the irrelevance of opposition, but you are still not happy.

The last electable leader you had was Blair, but you don't like him, either.

There's hope for the Tories yet.

Up the workers!