Starmer's vision quest

[icowden]

That's fair enough, but if you're prepared to raise your children in a particular way, then you're supportive.

It's my experience that many husbands are supportive of whatever it was that their wives told them to be supportive of...

 

[AndyRM]

It's my experience that many husbands are supportive of whatever it was that their wives told them to be supportive of...

Doesn't sound like a particularly balanced marriage to me...

 

[BoldonLad]

Except anti-semitism isn't to do with faith. There are plenty of non-religious Jews.

I didn’t say it was.

The “non-religious” Jew, is interesting, in my head, if no-one else’s, I can’t think of another group where religion/race/ethnicity is as blurred as in the term "Jew".

I assume, although I have no scientific proof, that there are “non-religious” Jews, Muslims, Hindus, Sikhs, etc, and Christians.

I believe the RC’s have a term for it ie “wooden catholics”.

 

[BoldonLad]

That's fair enough, but if you're prepared to raise your children in a particular way, then you're supportive.

I think we are at slight cross purposes here. You can be supportive of your partner, without being supportive of their religion, although, I would say, a degree of tolerance is required.

Tolerance is a commodity in short supply, in my life experience, at least.

I could give you a personal example, but, I don't want to upset the forum overlord.

I fear we may be drifting off topic.

 

[AndyRM]

I think we are at slight cross purposes here. You can be supportive of your partner, without being supportive of their religion, although, I would say, a degree of tolerance is required.

Tolerance is a commodity in short supply, in my life experience, at least.

I could give you a personal example, but, I don't want to upset the forum overlord.

I fear we may be drifting off topic.

I think we're basically saying the same thing to be honest, just perhaps with different words?

 

[BoldonLad]

I think we're basically saying the same thing to be honest, just perhaps with different words?

Can’t have that, you are supposed to accuse me of being a bigot of some form, and hurl insults. 😊

You will get drummed out of the club. 😊

 

[AndyRM]

Can’t have that, you are supposed to accuse me of being a bigot of some form, and hurl insults. 😊

You will get drummed out of the club. 😊

Your syntax is horrible.

Will that do?

 

[matticus]

Hamas supporting prospective MP for labour has been kicked into touch by Starmer

You'd think Hamas would be too busy to be supporting an election candidate in Northern England, so fair play.

 

[BoldonLad]

Your syntax is horrible.

Will that do?

I don’t know what it means, but, I am very offended

 

[icowden]

I assume, although I have no scientific proof, that there are “non-religious” Jews, Muslims, Hindus, Sikhs, etc, and Christians.

I'm not sure that there are. It's only Jew that refers to both an ethnic group and a religion. Baddiel talks about it in "Jews don't count". IIRC he mentions that if you were in Germany in 1942, the Nazi's wouldn't be bothered whether you went to the Synagogue and/or wore a kippah or not, and that many tropes about Jews are physical - e.g. hooked nose. He also talks about the fact that he is both a Jew and an atheist.

 

[BoldonLad]

I'm not sure that there are. It's only Jew that refers to both an ethnic group and a religion. Baddiel talks about it in "Jews don't count". IIRC he mentions that if you were in Germany in 1942, the Nazi's wouldn't be bothered whether you went to the Synagogue and/or wore a kippah or not, and that many tropes about Jews are physical - e.g. hooked nose. He also talks about the fact that he is both a Jew and an atheist.

Sorry, but, I don’t know if you are agreeing with me or disagreeing. ?

 

[Deleted member 159]

You'd think Hamas would be too busy to be supporting an election candidate in Northern England, so fair play.

Id suggest he catches a plane and helps out Hamas, he's a valuable resource. He'd do well in the tunnels

 

[icowden]

Sorry, but, I don’t know if you are agreeing with me or disagreeing. ?

Bit of both? I agree that Jewish is both an ethnic group and a religion but I'm not sure that works for any other religion.

 

[albion]

I'm not sure that there are. It's only Jew that refers to both an ethnic group and a religion. Baddiel talks about it in "Jews don't count". IIRC he mentions that if you were in Germany in 1942, the Nazi's wouldn't be bothered whether you went to the Synagogue and/or wore a kippah or not, and that many tropes about Jews are physical - e.g. hooked nose. He also talks about the fact that he is both a Jew and an atheist.

Success helps. Am sure the poor man's option is to just keep your mouth shut.

 

[multitool]

Labour has won both by-elections.

Wellingborough has been a Tory seat for 23 years with an 18k majority. Labour won it with the second largest swing since WW2.

I'd say this is a pretty good vindication of Starmer's electoral policy.