Yet more Tory sleaze….

[Hitchington]

 

[BoldonLad]

You risk leaving readers with the impression that your opinions are hard for even you to support. You may not care about that but it's an odd attitude to adopt as a regular on a forum specifically set up for chatting about different points of view.

If only it was so.

 

[newfhouse]

If only it was so.

If you’re right, why isn’t it?

 

[BoldonLad]

If you’re right, why isn’t it?

In my opinion (or, point of view)? Too many insults

If you want "facts" and links, then, no comment.

 

[Deleted member 28]

One question to the half dozen 'hard liners' on here, how much does this lot anger you in real terms?

On a scale of 1 to 10 say, 1 being mildly 'put out' with what you see and 10 being 'can't think of anything else and constantly ruins my day'.

Just trying to assess how much politics really impacts you in a real World sense, for example would you go home at night and rant and rave about the latest goings on to your partner or is it only on forums you have a moan?

Also, were you a lot happier in life when 'the other lot' were in charge or were you just as upset?

Serious enquiry.

Before you bounce it back, I couldn't give a t**s what any of them do to be honest from any side.

 

[newfhouse]

In my opinion (or, point of view)? Too many insults

I see a fair few insult laden posts receiving likes. Is that part of the problem?

If you want "facts" and links, then, no comment.

I don’t know what this sentence means.

 

[Milzy]

Don't be disheartened, you get a regular like for having a go at loser, whining lefties.

Lots of people were impressed by nasty personal abuse of Jeremy Corbyn, apparently, or does it just apply to Tory public figures.

Why don't you volunteer to give the Tory lass, with her long history of working at very high levels in national television and newspapers, the benefit of your expertise.

"Stratton worked for The Guardian as a political correspondent until joining the BBC in 2012, where she was political editor of BBC Two's Newsnight from 2012 to 2016. She worked for ITV as national editor of ITV News from 2016 to 2018 and co-presenter of Peston on Sunday from 2016 to 2018.

After leaving journalism, Stratton became a Conservative Party political advisor. She was Chancellor Rishi Sunak's Director of Strategic Communications at the Treasury from April until October 2020 when she became the press secretary for 10 Downing Street. In April 2021 she was appointed as spokesperson for COP26 President Alok Sharma."

Pffft, What does she know aout media savvy?

Why did she act the way she did? All she had to say was I’m sorry I don’t know what you’re on about?

 

[qigong chimp]

This is getting wearisome.

I didn't expect I'd ever say this, and I feel dirty and ashamed about it you can be sure, but I agree.
I almost feel nostalgic for suggestible moderation.

 

[BoldonLad]

I see a fair few insult laden posts receiving likes. Is that part of the problem?


I don’t know what this sentence means.

Strange, I thought “likes” only meant an acknowledgement of the post. There was a multi post thread about this, a short while ago. Cannot recall if it was before NACA split from the main site.

Answering a question with a question isn’t helpful. IMHO

Finally, my last sentence meant, “do you want my opinion or will only facts backed up from reputable sources”?

 

[newfhouse]

Strange, I thought “likes” only meant an acknowledgement of the post. There was a multi post thread about this, a short while ago. Cannot recall if it was before NACA split from the main site

I think there is often meaning to a like beyond acknowledgment, perhaps encouragement, but it is sometimes hard to be sure about other people’s usage. I will sometimes like a post that contains a well made point even if I disagree but I don’t think I like overtly insulting posts very often if at all. I don’t know, I don’t keep a spreadsheet.

Finally, my last sentence meant, “do you want my opinion or will only facts backed up from reputable sources [do]”?

I understand now. No, I was asking your opinion (by means of a question).

 

[swansonj]

One question to the half dozen 'hard liners' on here, how much does this lot anger you in real terms?

On a scale of 1 to 10 say, 1 being mildly 'put out' with what you see and 10 being 'can't think of anything else and constantly ruins my day'.

Just trying to assess how much politics really impacts you in a real World sense, for example would you go home at night and rant and rave about the latest goings on to your partner or is it only on forums you have a moan?

Also, were you a lot happier in life when 'the other lot' were in charge or were you just as upset?

Serious enquiry.

Before you bounce it back, I couldn't give a t**s what any of them do to be honest from any side.

8.

When Blair was in charge, he did a lot of things I liked and a few things I didn't - but whether I liked them or not, they were just things he did on top of the underlying structures of this country, just as Wilson and Heath had done before. Only two governments in my lifetime have set out to change that underpinning. Thatcher set out to make greed into a virtue and I hated her for it. And the last ten years have seen a systematic process to change Britain from a liberal, progressive democracy into a narrow, hate-filled, authoritarian, hollow, deliberately corrupt shell of a democracy and I hate the people responsible even more passionately than I hated Thatcher. That 8 reflects the fact that for the first time in my life, this country has ceased to be a place I want to live.

 

[BoldonLad]

I think there is often meaning to a like beyond acknowledgment, perhaps encouragement, but it is sometimes hard to be sure about other people’s usage. I will sometimes like a post that contains a well made point even if I disagree but I don’t think I like overtly insulting posts very often if at all. I don’t know, I don’t keep a spreadsheet.


I understand now. No, I was asking your opinion (by means of a question).

So, I see you mention “spreadsheet”, do you remember the thread I mentioned?

It is fairly clear that my “likes” and “laughs” are being observed and perhaps counted, which just encourages me to spread them randomly, to confound.

From another thread, but, posts like this below, add nothing to any discussion, IMHO:

Things @Pale Rider can do: be terrible at pedantry, have a boner for Thatcher, admire whoever writes dreadful headlines for The Sun/The Mail.

 

[Deleted member 49]

8.

When Blair was in charge, he did a lot of things I liked and a few things I didn't - but whether I liked them or not, they were just things he did on top of the underlying structures of this country, just as Wilson and Heath had done before. Only two governments in my lifetime have set out to change than underpinning. Thatcher set out to make greed into a virtue and I hated her for it. And the last ten years have seen a systematic process to change Britain from a liberal, progressive democracy into a narrow, hate-filled, authoritarian, hollow, deliberately corrupt shell of a democracy and I hate the people responsible even more passionately than I hated Thatcher. That 8 reflects the fact that for the first time in my life, this country has ceased to be a place I want to live.

Blair please....he did a few things you didn't like ? I'm always amazed that people can justify the good he did whilst overlooking the fact he took us into a illegal war that killed so many innocent people and made the world a much unsafer place.

 

[Deleted member 49]

One question to the half dozen 'hard liners' on here, how much does this lot anger you in real terms?

On a scale of 1 to 10 say, 1 being mildly 'put out' with what you see and 10 being 'can't think of anything else and constantly ruins my day'.

Just trying to assess how much politics really impacts you in a real World sense, for example would you go home at night and rant and rave about the latest goings on to your partner or is it only on forums you have a moan?

Also, were you a lot happier in life when 'the other lot' were in charge or were you just as upset?

Serious enquiry.

Before you bounce it back, I couldn't give a t**s what any of them do to be honest from any side.

I don't spend my days dwelling on it...I've said it before I could quite easily take your approach and not give a feck.Im doing alright,I can get by comfortable enough.
It does makes me angry/sad in equal measure what we've become as a country though.

 

[newfhouse]

@BoldonLad We are veering wildly off topic. I will create a fresh thread.

Edit: https://ncap.cyclechat.net/threads/likes-and-laughs.122/