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mjr

Active Member
It isn't really semantics though is it? A proven criminal charge will most likely end you up in prison having been through due process, investigated, interviewed under caution, charged, put on trial and convicted by a jury most likely. None of your list falls in to that category, so they are not proven criminal behaviour (or whatever you wrote) are they?
The most common outcome even if it goes to a court conviction is a fine, not prison:
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See https://www.gov.uk/government/stati...tatistics-quarterly-june-2021-html#sentencing

So your view really does seem to be semantics, based on some misunderstanding that only prison means it was a crime.
 

Craig the cyclist

Über Member
The most common outcome even if it goes to a court conviction is a fine, not prison:
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See https://www.gov.uk/government/stati...tatistics-quarterly-june-2021-html#sentencing

So your view really does seem to be semantics, based on some misunderstanding that only prison means it was a crime.
Oh dear oh dear, you are picking em up on most likely outcome form going to court, but are quite happy to accept mudsticks list as being 'proven criminality', when it isn't. Classic.
 

Mugshot

Über Member
The Greens, Lib Dems, Plaid Cymru, the SNP, Labour and the Conservatives I think you said didn't you?

That is everyone will be a credible alternative, including the current government :wacko:
That's right, all parties, including the Tories are capable of offering credible alternatives. Apparently some people think the current lot are credible.
Are you suggesting that Johnson is the only option?
 

Mugshot

Über Member
Oh dear oh dear, you are picking em up on most likely outcome form going to court, but are quite happy to accept mudsticks list as being 'proven criminality', when it isn't. Classic.
Oh dear, oh dear, and you are twisting my list to suit your deflection, and mixing up posters too.
Entirely predictably, this was the big gotcha you were working up to, and it's a semantic hobby horse you are determined to continue riding.
 
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FishFright

Well-Known Member
To be honest, right now, just a straight answer on anything will do. I don't mind if you want to name a credible alternative or which of the things that offend you were criminal.


It isn't really semantics though is it? A proven criminal charge will most likely end you up in prison having been through due process, investigated, interviewed under caution, charged, put on trial and convicted by a jury most likely. None of your list falls in to that category, so they are not proven criminal behaviour (or whatever you wrote) are they?

It's all new Paley show! Excusing anything the Tories do at every turn !

Now Starring Craig McQuibble because the original presenter showed his true colours and had to go and hide.
 
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It's all new Paley show! Excusing anything the Tories do at every turn !

Now Starring Craig McQuibble because the original presenter showed his true colours and had to go and hide.
Why not prove him wrong and answer his question then?

It can't be that difficult if what he's saying is incorrect surely?
 

Beebo

Veteran
On the face of it, the sexual assault was very much at the low end of the spectrum. Which is what has got Mr Blunt so angry.

But the victim was a child and Khan was in his mid 30s, plying alcohol and looking to take advantage.

Plus a police report was made at the time.
Plus the Tory central office were warned prior to his election.

So all in all I have no sympathy.
 
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